Does God still work....?

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  1. TCGreek

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    We know there was a proliferation of miracles in the NT to authenticate the message, but now we have the message and the closed canon.

    Here are few questions I think we should be asking ourselves:

    1. What do we believe about God and His supernatural intervention?

    2. Does God still intervene miraculously like He did in the bible times?

    3. Since the close of the canonical Scripture, have there been genuine cases of miracles like in bible times?

    4. Have there been geniune cases of people literally dying and coming back to life as in the case of Lazarus (John 11)?

    This is not a case of doubting the power of God, but it is to find out if God still works the same as in bible times?
     
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    God does not change. What He does He does for love of us combined with His glory.

    Does God still intervene miraculously? Yes, He does. But it is not a matter of how much faith any one of us has, but rather a matter of obedience prayer and His choice in response. I have been the recipient of a verifiable medical miracle for which I am extremely grateful. However other prayers for, for instance, the health of my retarded son, have been answered with 'no.' It is HIS choice for His reasons but, yes, miracles still are given.

    As far as people coming back from the dead, it depends on how long you want them to be dead! From what I was told, I died during a surgery when I was 32 and was shocked back to life. No lights, no visions -- I was told about it later. (That, by the way, is not the miracle I received which I referred to in the paragraph above.)
     
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  4. TCGreek

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    Thanks brother! I started this thread at the suggestion of another brother from the thread on 90 Minutes in Heaven.
     
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    I think miracles and gifts abound where the Word of God is scarce.
     
  6. I Am Blessed 24

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    Define dead.

    My husband flatlined (on the heart monitor) three times within 15 minutes and was revived all three times. To me - no heartbeat = dead. I believe it was a miracle that he survived long enough to have heart surgery.

    To me, doctors being able to operate, hold one's heart in their hands, and fix it, whether it be by stent, bypasses, or transplants is a miracle.

    I had a bonafide miracle witnessed by several professionals this past year. Some of them are still wondering what happened...

    God is the same yesterday, today, and forever!
     
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    A "God-of-the-gaps" type miracle is when we attribute to God something that can’t otherwise be explained.
    Of course as we educate ourselves, we end up seeing God performing fewer and fewer miracles.
    God is often praised for a performing a special miracle when all he really did was permit a sustaining action.

    I’m a practical cessationalist
    While I’m not convinced that scripture states that special miracles have ceased, I find myself skeptical when claims of miracles are made.

    And while I still praise God for his interventions, I don’t believe that today he works “outside-the-box” as often as it is claimed.

    Rob
     
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    The other day I listened to a Dean Koontz book on tape while I was on a trip. It was called The Taking. It was really cool. Not to spoil it for anyone who wants to read it but it starts out with this alien invasion of the earth but by the end of the book you learn it was not aliens at all but the rapture (kind of, this book is not necessarily theologically correct, but it is interesting)

    Anyway, there is a quotation at the start of the book from the non Christian central character of the novel that says something along the lines of:



    In the end of the book when she has leaned that God was really behind everything she reverses that quotation and says something like (hey I don’t remember it word for word)



    Anyway, I think miracles still happen, I just think that way to often God no longer receives the credit.
     
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    Miracles and other spiritual signs are normally associated with the burgeoning church in the world. I have missionary friends from countries in the 10-40 window that have amazing stories of God doing real-live miracles right before them. I believe that miracles and miraclous signs have not ceased but seem to be more prevelant in other places where the church is both struggling and beginning to find its feet. :)

    I believe God supernaturally intervenes when He wants. He is God afterall.

    Yes. If God doesn't intervene and allow His children to use miraclous signs and events to herald His name why does a verse like: John 14:12 I tell you the solemn truth, the person who believes in me will perform the miraculous deeds that I am doing, and will perform greater deeds than these, because I am going to the Father.

    Yes. I can list a great many I have heard just from friends. I believe God works in both the gaps and in the main places (not taking shots just clarifying.)

    I don't know...possibly. Maybe that is too extreme of an example, I don't know. I read the other day of a guy waking up in the middle of his autopsy. He wasn't quite dead yet. ;)

    Sure and I think it's an awfully good conversation to have! :thumbs:
     
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    1. That's a good view on the issue, since we really don't have them happening here without much criticism.

    2. Indisputable.

    3. The cessasionist might see this as pointing only to the work of conversion and salvation. Global evangelism, if you will.

    4. Do you have any from your own life?

    5. You may of heard of 90 Minutes in Heaven by Don Piper; he claimed to have died and comeback to life, hence the question.
     

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