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Discussion in 'Politics' started by mandym, Feb 24, 2012.
Someone has to pay for the stuff. The question is who will it be?
The person who needs it.
That's how it worked out for the first half of my marriage but I guess now the government needs to step in??
The extreme left wing wants all contraceptives to be free to women and a right. It looks to be part of the population control agenda.
Yep. Too bad my husband's asthma medicine couldn't be his "right" as well. He has to pay $60 a month for that and without that, he could die. :BangHead: THAT is true healthcare.
Every child added to the welfare roll will probably cost the taxpayers $200,000 over the first 18 years. How many birth control pills will that buy?
Right wingers don't understand the difference between "voluntary" and "mandatory?" Paying taxes is mandatory. Using contraceptives is voluntary.
That would include abortion.
Agree. Your point?
I have been told that many get an abortion as a form of contraception. Is the underlying proposal for them to be joined?
Still be much cheaper than $10,000/year for every kid on welfare for 20 years.
True, but that's not really the issue.
Violating the first amendment rights of Catholics and the Catholic church is.
The government has no right to force any religious organization to violate their beliefs.
Seriously? Link, please.
Exactly. One way or another, because it's provided for "free" to the patient, it's being paid for by someone else. The employer usually pays for the insurance. If President Obama says that the "insurance company" is paying for the medication, you bet the insurance company is passing on the costs in premiums to the employer - thus the employer is STILL paying for the medication. So either way the employer is paying for it - even if it is against their religious beliefs. I can't believe that the government is really doing this. To me it's just so incredible - but they are. Stepping on the Constitution does not even begin to describe it!
It's not even the extreme left wing. I'm on a secular board with mostly young women in the horse world. This topic came up and they are screaming that it is basic health care that every woman should be allowed to have and that the church has no right to say that women can't have birth control. THEY are saying that the extreme right is trying to outlaw birth control all together.
Oh - and it's not a "want" it's already a reality:
Thank you. To be pedantic, the "right" they are clamoring for is for insurance companies to cover it. Not that it should be "free".
True. "Free" for them.
The young people that I've discussed it with scream that it's medical care that they have a right to. Some say that they need it for menstrual issues. I argue that my husband needs asthma medication to live so why can't his asthma medicine be free instead of $180 a month? They said that it's not part of basic medical care like birth control should be. :BangHead: They will live with a crampy period. My husband will die without breathing.