Does Jesus say exactly the same things in all 4 gospels?

Do you understand the translation process?

You do know that Jesus did not speak English, right?

 

Do you mean manuscripts or originals?

Originals...we don't have, but if we did...yes of course.

Manuscripts...we have thousands. And they agree on every cardinal doctrine. Just not on every word.

Whose fault is that? Not God's...try copyists, decay rates of papyri, humidity, fire, time...

...yet God still gives us His word.

I think after you've had some time to study the process of translation and "how we got the Bible" from some reputable sources, you'll enjoy this conversation even more than you do now.

 

The gospels are different accounts of basically the same events. But, anytime you have several witnesses you're going to get a variation in testimony. This happens all the time in a court of law. It doesn't mean that Jesus didn't say the same thing, but that the listeners heard different parts of the same message.

 

Who said God told them word for word? Where did you get this information. Inspiration doesn't have to be word for word. They were still human beings and God allowed their characters to be revealed in their writings yet still inspired of God. God has always desired His people to work along side Him to accomplish His will all through human history. The whole Bible is inspired by God working THROUGH His people.

 

Well, I'll tell you one thing I can't rely on and that is my little pea brain to figure everything out 100% while still in this earthly body. I can rely on the Bible as the word of God and I trust it even though there may be a different wording here or there. All the what- ifing robs me of the joy of my salvation and I just choose not to go there. I think you should do the same. God has everything all figured out even if I don't.

 

The Bible is inspired, not dictated. The Apostles were told that the Holy Spirit would bring all the things Christ said to their remembrance. It doesn't mean that they would remember the same words, but the meaning would be the same. Besides, if all four witnesses related the testimony the same way, it would prove collaboration, and their testimonies would be unreliable.

A good book to get to understand the Gospels and the reasons for their differences is Four Views of Christ by Andrew Jukes. Matthew presents Christ to us as King; Mark presents Christ as a servant; Luke focuses more on the humanity of Christ, and John His divinity.

Absolutely, and Jukes will acknowledge that the Holy Spirit is also behind the differences in the words each disciple used. It's a good book. You need to get it and read it. It's short. Only 125 pages.

 

Four different people wrote the gospels, you see their style and personality come through, even though they wrote God's message. Nothing contradicts anything else in the gospels, they are in complete harmony.

 

I guess they were writting everything in their words. I think one of them was a doctor right? Maybe he was more educated then others and thats why it was more detailed. like for me if you say Whats up or hey homie its the same is how are you doing just placed in a different way but instead of confusing you let it give you confidence that 4 different people are writting about Jesus in a great way if it all said the same thing it would be taking the point of Free Will. I dont know just my thoughts on it

 

xdx, you're wrapping yourself up in faulty logic. You're chasing after answers that are already "out there" in the bible itself.

Matthew was written to the Jews.
Mark was written to the Gentiles.
Luke was written to the Greeks, specifically (special case: beyond the "Gentile" designation).

John, expressing the Divinity of Christ, challenges all of us, for the most part. John connects "the sayings of Jesus" to the testimony of Paul. He is the bridge from the message of Jesus to the Jews, to the message of Paul to the rest of us.

All of it is divinely inspired. Because the audience was different, and because oral communication was added to the notes taken, there are some linguistic differences. I can imagine one follower listening to another read from his notes, and saying, "O, Yes ~ I was there! He also said.........". The oral communication itself was divinely inspired.

One Sunday about 5-6 years ago our Pastor brought an exciting, informative, instructional sermon to us. Recently, he went back to his notes and preached the same sermon again. If I play back the recordings of each message, it will be impossible for me to create a harmonious third presentation. The message was the same, the words were different, we listeners were blessed.

The song goes, "I cast all my cares (doubts, fears, wants, needs) upon You, I lay all of my burdens (mental, physical, for myself and others) down at Your feet. Anytime I don't know what I should do, I just cast all my cares upon You."

You can do that, as well. Let medical doctors be part of your program to gain control over your mind, a mind that chases endlessly for answers. There is another song, "When answers aren't enough, there is Jesus!" Let Him be the answer.

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Why do YOU question everything?

Some of us do our best to be helpful ~~ but in your unending search for answers, you often ignore us and move on. God's word is true, authentic, can be relied upon, we can put our faith in what is written.

You need to receive that good word and move on.

:smilewinkgrin:

 

It seems you have made up your mind. Why the continual questions that have very logical answers? Again, provide examples if your really bothered by it then perhaps you can get a more specific answer. Also keep in mind that Jesus probably taught many things multiple times during His ministry, so perhaps He was quoted word for word at different times by different people.

 

It wasn't.

Problem solved.