Does Obama Really Get it on OIL???

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  1. righteousdude2

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    I have to ask all my brothers and sisters in line with Obama to please tell me if I am hearing him right when it comes to oil. I think, every time I've heard him speak about what he would do with the oil problem, is that he does not want to expand drilling in America. If I hear Obama right, he believes that the new forms of energy will eventually take us beyond the need for gasoline. I think he believes that while it will be tight for a while, it will make all of us more appreciative of the new energy when it comes.

    Does this mean he thinks we should pay high dollar for gas while we develop alternative forms of energy to move the cars? And if this is true, how does he think the middle class and below, disabled, retired, and homeless people will somehow have the money to buy these new energy cars, or have the cash to transform our old cars over to CNG [for one]???

    This is a crazy plan, if it true to what I think I am hearing. People like myself are unable to go anywhere due to the high cost to fill up my car. It also costs me more than ever to buy food and pay utilities, because of oil prices. If I am forced to get by until America develops new and better ways to travel, and be expected to buy, or transform my car over to the new energy, than he is NOT IN TOUCH WITH THE COMMON PERSON IN AMERICA, too!:laugh:

    I invite your input my Liberal thinking friends. Is this really his mindset, or did I hear him wrong???

    Thanks for your feedback...

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  2. LeBuick

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    Obama wants to drill in the gulf and he wants to reduce America's dependency on foreign oil. Who doesn't? The facts are we don't have enough here to totally cut the foreign ties.

    He goes on to say that drilling for more oil, be it here or foreign is only a short term solution to a problem that increases each day. He wants to aggressively invest in alternative solutions so we can simultaneously be looking for the long term remedy.

    I think he has a good vision in this area... :thumbs:
     
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    It might be a good "vision" but it's not practical for all the reasons RD2 stated above. Next, it will be a plan for the government to give money to everyone to change their cars over. Wonder where he thinks the money will come from for that? I wonder what planet he lives on.
     
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    You really think so? btw what was big brothers name ? I mean in Orwells book 1984?
     
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    I think we should pay an extra $1/gal war tax.

    I think we should run the Arabs dry before we sell any more gas leases.
     
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    I think we need to depend on what we already have (oil we aren't drilling for)and not pay the arab countries more money then we need to for oil, money that will only come to haunt us in the form of terrorism. Of course there needs to be a more long term solution, but we don't have one yet that feasable for anyone but the rich. Obama needs to address current problems, gas prices, at the same time. Otherwise it's going to get so much worse here that for some people they will never get out of the hole even when that more permenant solution does eventually arrive. We can't live with gas prices and higher heating costs and higher food and everything else long term, but this seems to be obamas plan, live with till something better is developed, years from now. At least if we begin drilling now we will have our own oil in a few years. Rather then never with obama.
     
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    Problem is that Obama doesn't
    Want to address oil or gas issues.
    He thinks that they are no big deal to him.
     
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    I don't know why you all object to Obama's energy plan. It is pretty much the same as the McCain Palin plan except he puts dollar amounts in his explanation. McCain Palin want to drill in the gulf, Anwar and invest in alternative solutions also. They just don't say how much they will invest over what period of time.

    @RD2 = I don't think the poor and homeless will be expected to by the new energy efficient cars he proposes right away. It's the same theory the government used with pollution. New energy efficient cars will trickle into the economy and the day will come that they are used and cheap enough for the poor and homeless to buy. I assume you mean homeless who live in their car.

    @Donna = Gas prices are a totally separate issue since no one's plans will produce one drop of oil for 5 to 10 years. My anger with the price of gas has to do with we are paying is allowing Iraq to bank billions in profits while we spend our taxes dollars to rebuild their country. Since they are making all these profits off us then the least they can do is foot the bill to rebuild their own country. It upsets me the Bush administration would go for such a plan.
     
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    Actually, Obama has spoken in depth regarding his energy plans. He was the one promoting his solution to the problems when McCain still thought the economy was sound. I think you are confusing the candidates.
     
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    ON tv a few weeks ago they said 2 to 3 years.
     
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    I haven't heard that view but it sill won't do anything for the price of gas today. And keep in mind these plans will go through no matter which set of candidates make office since it is pretty much a universal feeling that we need to drill more oil at home. The only question stuck in bureaucracy is where.
     
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    Here is another area where if you look at the record, you will see flip/flop. In the 1999/2000 Republican nominee race, McCain was criticizing Clinton for renewing oil drilling leases off the coast of Ca., In 2005 McCain voted to keep ANWR closed to drilling, in 2005 he also voted against a bill to reduce foreign oil imports by 40% over 20 years. In 5/02 President Bush was in the oval office with Jeb Bush (Gov. FL) and signed a deal to stop offshore drilling off the FL coast. Now the Republicans say Drill,Drill,Drill. I say flop/flip or is it flip/flop. This is a tough issue that our government needs to get busy on. As Ike may show us the price of gas doesn't just rest on oil prices. No new refineries since 1976, no new nuclear plants since 1984. I believe cheap energy is over, why would private industries over produce to make less money. McCain wants 45 new nuclear plants- who is going to pick up the tab on those?
     
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    Very well said and very fair overview of the facts. If you recall after 3 mile island, nuclear power plants were considered on the level of abortions (not in my backyard).

    This is what I meant by McCain has the same visions but he won't say how much it will cost and how he plans to finance the cost. We know Obama said he will tax the upper 5% plus close loopholes which upset a lot of people to include the ad I just saw saying he would raise everyone taxes. That is not at all what he said. But from what I can see, he is the only one offering details. With McCain, we are being asked to buy the car sight unseen...
     
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    In 1999/2000 gas wasn't $4. a gallon either. That explains that. Not flip flopping, but facing the present reality.
     
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    Yes, but we had recently protected Kuwait from Iraq and said then we needed to cut our dependence on foreign oil. The purpose of drilling is not to reduce prices, it's to cut our dependence on foreign oil.

    Our Senators brought big oil representatives and questioned them about the recent price hikes. They admitted as well as you can see that big oil is making record high profits. It was then that you saw it back off and settle just under $4/gal. In my view, $4 was America's screaming point.
     
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    Don't be fooled by Obama's plan for drilling. The libs have only come on board with drilling as the polls have shown an increase in the American people's desire for more drilling as a result of gas prices going up. We can be sure of this one thing. The Libs to include Obama do not "really" want to drill. They just want to win this election.
     
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    Wait Rev, you must forget when McCain also recently came on board the off shore drilling bandwagon. It was coincidently followed by some large campaign contributions from big oil (if you know what I mean)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/26/AR2008072601891.html

     
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    First, I do not support McCain so pointing out any similar policies to Obama means nothing to me. However, I believe McCain actually believes in drilling and will actually follow through. Obama and his cohorts are vehemently against it and will do anything to get out of it.
     
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    Obama: Pay High Gas Prices, It Will Help Us....

    Obama wants us to continue to pay high gas prices, so he is not for drilling, and drilling now! I heard him reference this to the need for Americans to suck it up, pay the price, and work hard to develop alternative fuels, etc. Furthermore, he believes it will make us more appreciative of the new alternatives when they come.

    He believes that Americans are doing well with the current prices [we've cut back miles] and more of this will make us more determined to get fuel cell cars, electric cars, etc.

    Which raises the question. How can the poor live on less while only the rich can afford these new alternative fuel cars and trucks? I can't afford to keep paying the price of gas and pay fro everything else that's gone up too. Obama's plan would not only hurt me, but when those car come on line, I could never afford them, so I'd have to pay astronomical prices for gas, that we may be weened off of.

    So the question is: Does Obama REALLY get it when it comes to the cost of gasoline, and the need to lower it as soon as possible. Lowering gas prices means food, and everything else should also fall, and take the suffocating prices back down!

    Currently, I believe Obama's plan is not friendly to those who need it to be friendly, and friendly fast.

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    Ronald Reagan put us on this path to destruction when he shut down back in the 80's fledgling efforts by the government to support synthetic fuel development. If he hadn't done that we could have been independent of foreign oil by now.
     

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