Featured Does OSAS mean freedom to keep on sinning then?

As per the thread title and in answer to that -- how could any converted person feel or believe that to go on in sin (freedom to keep on sinning) as 'freedom'?

Any person that believes that OSAS (conversion) were an excuse for 'freedom to keep on sinning' has completely missed the purpose of the Gospel, salvation, and so much more.

The regenerate/converted see sin as slavery and something to be set free from, not something to have 'freedom' to keep on committing. Consider 1 John for instance.

 

Correct.....:thumbsup::wavey:

 

No I would not agree with that as unfortunately some use that excuse.

 

Yeshua1

I have no idea what you are talking about with this...at all

What verses say this???

 

The reason you are confused is because you interpret Romans 6 in an absolute sense and misinterpret Romans 7:14-25 as it cleary teaches that two different aspects of the human nature are at war with each other.

Romans 6:11-13 make it clear that Paul does not mean one is "freed" from the power or presence of sin in his own person in the absolute sense or else he would not have to exhort them to "reckon" and to "resist" etc.

Romans 7:14-25 clearly and unmistakenly prove that the whole person of the saint is not regenerated or created "in Christ." There is an unregenerated aspect of the human nature ("my flesh...this body of death....my members) wherein "the law of sin" is now operating against another aspect of the human nature which is regenerated "inward man".

The "old man" is not actually dead in regard to the saints own person but only dead judicially and regeneratively "in Christ" as Romans 6:7 and the term "freed" translates the very same word consistently translated "justified" from Romans 3:24 forward. It is Judicial death to sin that is the subject and which is spelled out for you in clear terms in Romans 7:1-5. If the "old man" had been absolutely "put off" we would never have to "put on" the new man. If the "old man" had been absolutely put off he would have used the indicative mode rather than the imperative mode which demands that the believer MUST DO IT IN OBEDIENCE TO A COMMAND!!! Now you can do what you always do in regard to this subject and just repeat your nonsense, but your nonsense does not change the exegetical facts which completely expose and condemn your absolutists position. Regeneration is what brings a believer into spiritual union with Christ not any baptism in the Spirit. This is simple. Spiritual death IS SEPARATION and thus the opposite of separation is.......??? You guessed it "union" and that is obtained not by any baptism in the Spirit but by being "CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS" which is contextually defined as being quickened - made alive (Eph. 2:1, 5, 8, 10).

OSAS is perfectly Biblical. Sure some abuse it, but what truth is not abused?