Does the KJV actually promote MV's?

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  1. Pastor KevinR

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    1 Cor 14:9 "So likewise ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air." To the modern reader, who has not studied 17th Century English, the KJV is "speaking into the air". Doesn't our Lord want His Word to be easily understood?
     
  2. BrianT

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    Amen.

    Here are two quotes I like:

    "Indeed without translation into the vulgar tongue, the unlearned are but like children at Jacob's well (which is deep) [John 4:11] without a bucket or something to draw with; or as that person mentioned by Isaiah, to whom when a sealed book was delivered, with this motion, "Read this, I pray thee," he was fain to make this answer, "I cannot, for it is sealed." [Isa 29:11]" (The KJV translators)

    "Do not give them a loaf of bread, covered with an inedible, impenetrable crust, fossilized by three and a half centuries. Give them the word of God as fresh and warm and clear as the Holy Spirit gave it to the authors of the Bible ... For any preacher or theologian who loves God's Word to allow that Word to go on being misunderstood because of the veneration of an archaic, not-understood version of four centuries ago is inexcusable, and almost unconscionable." (Edwin Palmer, the executive secretary for the committee on Bible translation for the NIV)

    God bless,
    Brian
     
  3. timothy 1769

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    Huh? I can't understand your scripture quotation...

    Heh, just kidding there.

    The problem is that things have been going hideously downhill in the faith department for the last 150+ years, perhaps even longer. We are a society that worships worldy wisdom. It's done so much for us - a rational approach to EVERYTHING has fed millions, healed the sick, and provided undreamt of abundance in material posessions.

    Yes, there were biases 400 years ago, it wasn't an eden. There was great sin and doctrinal error. But I do think that at that time it was much easier to find qualified translators who believed the Bible and it's promises with a simple, childlike faith. And failing that, feared God and his wrath in way that we moderns would have a hard time conceiving of. That, combined with all pervasive attitudes that exalt individualism, materialism, feminism, and all kinds of "rights" has led to a situation where, even given good intentions, it is very difficult to make a translation as accurate as those made centuries ago.

    This doesn't even address the underlying textual concerns, which are considerable.
     
  4. robycop3

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    The fact is, KJVOism is completely without foundation. No evidence to give it any credence. No Scriptural support, but indirect scriptural opposition. A clear, man-made beginning. Operating by guesswork, false propaganda, a great,proven double standard, and outright LIES. Of all the "isms" to have invaded the Baptist faith, given its total lack of supporting evidence, this is one of the least credible, and in the face of the evidence AGAINST it, one of the GOOFIEST.

    The textual debates have gone on for over a hundred years, with no end in sight. All they do now is play, "MY scholar can whup YOUR scholar".Again, if God had decided to have limited Himself to just one version of His word, He would've SAID SO, according to Amos 3:7, & He would've preserved the Autographs.
     
  5. Dr. Bob

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    While many 20th C scholars and pastors lauded the KJV1769 and said it was better than the MV like the RSV or ASV1901, the modern movement of KJVonly sect has a history of less than 35 years.

    It is a modern phenomenon, let by a militant minority intent on hijacking historic fundamentalism to the detriment of the Body of Christ.

    They sincerely believe they are right and holding the truth. Peer pressure is intense.

    But, as the old adage goes, "the road to hell is paved with sincerity".
     

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