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Featured Donald Trump's Position on Releasing His Tax Returns?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by InTheLight, May 23, 2016.

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  1. Benjamin

    Benjamin Well-Known Member
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    Hmm, if someone continually looks for ways to attack one party and continually turns to defend the other it is fair to conclude this is a reality sign of what they truly believe and support? Hmm, I'll have to think about about that argument...unbiasedly of course. ;)
     
    #41 Benjamin, May 24, 2016
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    If Hillary Clinton made a similar donation to a far-right organization, it would certainly be a thought to be harmful to her campaign.
     
    #42 Rolfe, May 24, 2016
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    Oh there has definitely been a shift in the winds since the Donald emerged as the last man standing in the GOP. People are just positioning themselves and getting their excuses ready to overlook these things.
     
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    You keep forgetting that we are talking about his personal income tax returns, not his tax returns from Trump International. It's not business related. As such these would be personally directed charitable donations with no implied favorable situation to be gained. What is he going to get for his donation to Planned Parenthood? A discount on Ivanka's abortion?

    So if a man says he's pro-life and then it is found out that he PERSONALLY donated money out of his PERSONAL bank account to NARAL and/or Planned Parenthood, it would be a lie.
     
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    The amount of rationalization that is occurring is astounding.
     
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    Who is attacking what party?

    Who is defending the other party?

    You were attacking the GOP up until the point Trump became the presumed nominee.
     
    #46 InTheLight, May 24, 2016
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    In my view it is not necessary to separate the two as if one some how presents a realistic view of his true convictions. I do not think the man works that way. He is an opportunist. He does what it takes to get what he wants. Which is the biggest concern I have about a man with little or no moral grounding like him.
     
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    So, in fairness, if a man says he's pro-life and then it is found out that he PERSONALLY donated his time and obviously demonstrates obsessive energy into attacking the credibility of the only viable alternative candidate to the pro-abortion agenda through and by continually parroting left-wing media spin, it (his claim of being pro-life) would be a lie?

    Huh?! You mean the do nothing Establishment Elitist? Ah, there is a difference.
     
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    So who specifically is doing this rationalizing?
     
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    "Thousands of dollars" for Trump would be like you and I donating 37 cents in loose change. That being said, I already know that he was pro choice, so it wouldn't surprise me if he had. Not enough to make me do anything that would help elect Hillary, the personification of evil.
     
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    It absolutely is necessary. The two entities are distinct and separate. The actions that the corporation takes is a consensus agreement among the board of directors that is following a business strategy. The actions an individual takes is his alone, and indicates a set of beliefs and/or principles.

    What other reason would there be for a man to donate his personal money to a charity EXCEPT that he believes in what they are doing?

    You have no answer.
     
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    Got it. You will vote for Trump, the representation of evil. Representation is just one step below personification.
     
    #52 InTheLight, May 24, 2016
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    No excuses necessary. I have always said I will vote for whoever the republican nominee is, warts and all, to keep that evil hag out of the White House.
     
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    I do have an answer. It benefits him in his business to make a private donation.
     
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    Wrong. I have seen no evidence that Trump is evil and you have presented none. I have plenty of evidence that Hillary is evil to the bone.
     
    #55 carpro, May 24, 2016
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    Sheesh. Give me a break! You are in serious denial!

    Trump embodies the seven deadly sins. Greed and Lust regularly battle it out for first place in his life.

    Trump would kill the wife and children of terrorists.

    Trump would order the military to break the law and torture people.

    Trump built and ran casinos. How many lives have been ruined by the greed and avarice of gambling in his casinos? When some of them failed he filed for bankruptcy, claiming it is not a business failure but a shrewd manipulation of existing laws.

    He regularly lies about anything and everything:
    * Thousands of Muslims celebrated 911 on rooftops in New Jersey
    * Rafael Cruz was involved in the JFK assassination
    * He is getting audited by the IRS because he's a strong Christian
    * He doesn't know who David Duke is
    * Says he was not John Miller, an alter-ego spokesman for Trump in the 1990's.

    He's bilked thousands of people out of their money using his fake Trump University.

    This is just the short list I put together in less than 5 minutes off the top of my head.
     
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    It's definitely happening and it is repulsing. Everyone is all of a sudden a Trump apologist.
     
    #57 Use of Time, May 24, 2016
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    Well...you.
     
    #58 Use of Time, May 24, 2016
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    According to Business Insider Trump's net assets total $9.2 billion. His liabilities stand at about $500 million, and so his net worth goes to $8.7 billion. That's close enough to $10 billion that a round off to $10 billion is accurate enough for me.

    And remember, Trump does not do his own taxes. He probably never sees the returns or any thing else. He has a whole firm of accountants who do that for him. And, yes, as any good tax accounts will do, they take advantage of every loophole and break they can.

    There is a name for that. It is called THE LAW!
     
    #59 TCassidy, May 24, 2016
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    Hmm, in contrast I was finding all those who are resorting to systematically parroting left-wing media #nevertrump spin rather repulsing...
     
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