Donations through websites

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  1. tinytim

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    Our church recently decided to put a donation button on our website in case someone wants to donate to our ministry.

    What do you all think? Is it ethical? I think it is OK, I just want to get your feelings.
     
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    I generally believe church ministries should be funded by the membership of the church.

    Is it ethical? Well, I don't think it is "un" ethical.

    Is it biblical? Depends on how it is set up, I suppose. Good luck.

    peace to you:praying:
     
  3. TaterTot

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    as long as you arent using PayPal or something to colelct tithes :tongue3:
     
  4. JamieinNH

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    Tim, I think it's ok to ask for donations. Some web viewers might like the message your site/church is giving and want to help spread the word.

    I also agree with Tater, it's ok as long as you don't use PayPal. ;) In all seriousness though, remember that PayPal is NOT FDIC insured. I have heard horror storied about them, so if you use them, be sure to transfer fund out on a regular basis.

    Jamie
     
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    Here is an article that got us thinking.

    http://216.30.200.250/WV%20Baptist/My%20Webs/Current%20Issue/5.pdf

    It is there because we have a lot of extended families that have moved away, and still support our church. This may make it easier for them.

    I too agree that the church should be supported by the membership, but we would never turn anyone down if they want to give. I dont see it as a main avenue of funds, but it may help the members donate.

    Read the article in the link... it explains a lot
     
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    The only way I knew how to do it was through PayPal... is there another way, that would be better?
     
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    For those of you that can't open the above link, here it is:




    I want to share with​



    you a recent e-mail I
    received. “I hope the state
    is working on a technology
    to help churches take debit
    cards and/or electronic
    transfers for tithes. My
    generation and below do not carry cash, but do carry plastic.
    Credit would be wrong, but debit is ‘where it’s at.’ I am
    certain it would help increase giving in churches that have
    younger crowds. And it would increase efficiency if
    automated.” (sic)
    As you can probably tell from the writing style, this
    e-mail is from a young adult who is active in church. This
    person is making a case and an appeal for the church to look at
    a new way to receive tithes and offerings.
    150 years ago, America was an agricultural based
    economy. The local pastor or circuit rider was given produce,
    eggs, chickens, or grain as payment for services. As towns
    were formed and gold became the standard currency, support
    for ministry began to move from goods to bits of currency.
    Two bits -- four bits -- six bits -- a dollar. As towns became
    cities and agriculture gave way to manufacturing and
    production, people began to work for “cash money.” Churches
    began to see dollars instead of gold pieces in the offering
    plates.
    Then, our economy grew and we began to use checks.
    Somewhere in our church history, we had to decide how we
    were going to handle those signed pieces of paper the people
    wanted to place in the offering plates instead of cash. The use
    of checks grew to the point that for most churches, less than
    10% of their giving is cash.
    As our economy has moved from a cash based
    economy to an electronic based one, the church is once again
    faced with the challenge to change. As I watch the younger
    generation in the restaurants and stores, I do not see them
    using dollars or checks. They use their plastic -- it is their
    currency of choice. They have spoken loudly in society -- the
    businesses that accept this method of payment get their
    business. In the past two years, every fast food place I know
    has installed swipe machines and accepts plastic.​

    Why would McDonalds


    © go to all of the trouble and




    expense of adding these machines at every counter? Because​

    if they do not, they will lose the entire young adult and youth

    market to someone who will take their currency.
    Those under the age of 30 rarely carry cash or write
    checks. They use their debit/check cards everywhere they
    need money and pay all of their bills online. If we really want
    to facilitate giving among this generation, we need to look at
    ways to accept gifts in their currency.
    I often hear in the churches, “The younger generation
    does not give.” Could it be that we have not been willing to
    find ways to accept their currency?
    If you would like to discuss practical ways your
    church can accommodate this new currency, I would love to
    visit with you to share my experiences and thoughts. We have
    seen great results from our online registrations and donations.
    Supporting the mission,​





    The West Virginia Baptist/July-August 5​








     
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    Not really sure, I just know that Paypal isn't what it's cut out to be. I know companies that have had problems with them, and I have had problems with them as a seller on eBay. I sold some cubicles, the items were sent out and the buyer claimed I never sent them. Paypal/eBay didn't just reverse his charges until the investigation was done, they put a block on my entire account, which was alot more than the auction total.. After I sent them the invoice of the shipping company coming to my company to pick them up, and a signature of the items being signed for, then they released my account. That took about 6 1/2 weeks.

    As soon as they released my account, I withdrew all my money and closed my account with them.

    They are ok for donations, but each week, be sure to transfer the funds out to a real bank account. People think PayPal is a bank, and is insured and governored as such, but they are not.

    Jamie
     
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    thanks for the info. I knew they were not a bank..and we are watching it closely
     
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    I see your perspective but as a consumer I'd appreciate this type service.

    Tiny, I can't see anyone reversing a donation to the Church but like you said, keep an eye on it. Good luck and God bless your effort to spread his word.
     
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    One of these days tater, just one of these days...
    Pow, right to the moon...:smilewinkgrin:
     
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    I'll lend you my spud buster...
     
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    Hey whats the big idea picking on such a sweet little innocent tater when she's out of the room for a moment?
     
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    I think ATM's in the church foyer and setting up Direct Debits so tithes are automatically electronically transferred into the church bank account is the way to go! :thumbs:
     
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    I don't see anything wrong with a button on your web site. I have used paypal for a number of years via eBay and a number of other companies.

    I've never had a problem. I have paid for something I didn't receive and canceled the payment. My money was returned the same day.

    The BB used to use PayPal for donations also, under the previous management. I'm not sure if they still do or not.
     
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    I agree with Sue, just don't make your site paid membership for entrance.
     

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