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  1. nodak

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    We attended a contemporary service on Good Friday and it was

    WONDERFUL!

    It was a musical passion play.

    The music was mostly by a well known country/contemporary guy that has since come out as gay.

    I was about ready to leave.

    BUT--the volume was kept loud enough to hear but not loud enough to hurt.

    Someone had actually considered the words of the songs, and made careful selections.

    They did the verses, the choruses, and then stopped. None of this "let's get you worked up into a trance" garbage.

    Let me tell you--were the "contemporary" church services around here usually that well thought out and that well done musically and theologically, I might jump the fence into the contemporary crowd.

    Ya'll can all commence fainting now if you need to. Or just have the vapors.
     
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    I think I'll get my smelling salts!! ROTFL!! That's awesome that you saw it done well!!! I would really hope that all worship guys would do the same but unfortunately they don't. But that's awesome that you got to experience it "right" rather than wrong and see that maybe there is another option! :)
     
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    So you went to a special play not a church service. The music was being led by someone who is openly gay? In other words living in sin on purpose? Would you be so accepting if he was married and openly practicing adultry? No difference in the eyes of God.
     
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    So true!

    And I wish all that complain about the "funeral music" of the old hymns could attend my church just once. We are anything BUT funeral music.

    You can actually do the old hymns, with the old tunes, with life and spirit so strong that all ages are caught up in them.

    I think I'm gonna start a new worship war:

    NOT contemporary vs traditional.

    RATHER, excellent vs imitating someone else's version of excellent.
     
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    No, milby, I went to a passion play that used a lot of Ray Boltz's songs.

    Songs that reminded us we are all sinners.

    But that God forgives.

    Songs like "Behold the Lamb" and "The Hammer" and "Arise my Love."

    Might want to listen to them.
     
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    Ok, I thought you meant the music was being led by someone that was openly gay. I have heard of Ray Boltz, didn't know he is gay.

    Yep we are all sinners for sure. I'm probably one of the worst. But I try not to be and it grieves me when I do. I was an alcoholic before God delivered me from that. If I was still a practicing alcoholic and didn't see that as wrong while claiming to be a Christian. I would have to question my own salvation.
     
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    Or forget "imitating someone else's version of excellent" and just saying "poor"! We went to a church where the organist played like she had dinner dishes on her feet. It was TERRIBLE!!! She constantly got the notes wrong and it made singing next to impossible - forget focusing on God while singing!! She was an interim but when they hired her on full time, that was the straw that broke the camel's back. We left. It wasn't JUST because of her - there was a ton wrong there but we kept trying and trying but when that happened, it was clear that we were done. I NEVER want to experience that kind of "music" again. If she were just learning to play that would be one thing but she was supposedly well trained!! OY!
     
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    ann, I hear you!

    Now, I love good organ music in church. And we've been blessed with some magnificent organs and some professional, wonderful organists.

    And...then...well, some could make a deaf person cry.

    One place we lived the only protestant church was very formal, and when you were supposed to stand the organist would hit a very high, loud, e sharp. It literally HURT. I not only wanted to stand, I wanted to run away.

    And no matter the kind of music, it needs to be loud enough to hear to sing with but not so loud it is literally painful. I've had some contemporary folks so loud we couldn't hear right for two hours after the service. And some traditional with pipe organs do the same.

    But my question is this: did I have a "conversion" experience? LOL:)
     
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    :laugh::laugh:

    **faint**

    VERY true. I totally agree with you. It's a balance and one that a good sound person will know. Hubby and I actually saw the band from "Moving Out" - the Billy Joel based Broadway show - and while the band was amazing, the music was entirely too loud. We had to leave even though it was a privilege to hear them for free! But the noise level was so bad that I woke up the next morning with my ears still ringing.

    I do think so!! I think you were struck down by the spirit of Larry Norman! :wavey:
     
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    And to think I gave up the Maranatha Praise Band for Lent.

    Not!

    Love them and much contemporary praise music, just not how its used sometimes.
     
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    I heard "Arise my Love" for the first time last Sunday. I had no idea if it was old or new, just really enjoyed hearing it.

    Actually, I heard the other ones too. Did we go to the same church? LOL
     
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    I'm sure I'll catch flak from some, but...

    Having learned that Boltz had turned to the sodomite lifestyle, I find the fact too distracting to be "blessed" by his music.

    http://www.rayboltz.com/#!__page-002

    Note the contrast of the song titles from classic Ray Boltz and new Ray Boltz.
     
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    You won't catch any flak from me.

    Interesting contrast in music titles since abandoning his family for his lusts.

    This is where those who preach 'love one another and so fulfill the law' take it to the extreme and out of context to endorse their own sin.
     
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    I agree. I have a hard time listening to someone when I don't agree with their lifestyle. We had one "popular" Christian band come to do a youth event for us a bunch of years ago and when I saw how they acted, I never listened to them again. It really turned me off. Then there's someone like LeCrae who has a style of music I really don't like at all but I met the man, his wife and his two adorable kids. I saw how he treated his family, saw how he dealt with the audience who responded to the Gospel message and have continued to see fruit in this young man's life that makes me like him. I don't listen to his music often but I will absolutely pass it on and if it comes on the radio, I don't turn it off. :)
     
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    wow, this saddens me. I never knew this, and yes, the titles of his songs show where his priorities and his heart is. Now that he has decided to be openly gay, the titles of his new songs appear to state "I'm gay and deal with it. I've learned to deal with it."

    Worst of all he's a practicing gay. It's not like he has recognized it as a sin he has to fight it for life, that would be different, but he has embraced his sinful state.
     
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    He's the Rock That Doesn't Roll! He's an Unidentified Object! Takes me back. Glad to hear about the good experience. Wish all of us had the 'whatever it takes' to step out of the familiar into the 'we aren't sure of' and be stretched!
     
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    I usually don't even know the name of the people I hear sing songs I like unless I look it up. That's on purpose...it gets old having stuff ruined when one ends up learning icky stuff like that. Kinda like how I used to like Streisand when I'd only heard her sing...then she started talking and ruined it all.
     

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