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Double Standards and Gender

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by jaigner, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. mandym

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    Apparently far more than you know.
     
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    http://swbts.edu/campusNews/story.cfm?id=B200CB3A-15C5-E47C-F9C265874A1D5256

    Well bless their heart.
     
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    Just because some like the pattersons may take these principles too far does not invalidate them completely. The fact of Abusive husbands (I'm not saying Paige is one) and dictatorial male pastors does not mean necessarily that we should give the women a shot at leading things.

    That's an experiential argument, not a biblical one.
     
  4. mandym

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    and how do they do that?
     
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    I don't think there is anything wrong with homemaking, or sewing, or male headship, or a woman wanting to please her husband.

    I do think that some in their circles get too specific in saying "This is the ideal of what what female submission looks like: Sewing, cooking, and that's it."
    I think you see a much wider role for women in scriptures that CAN include a job outside the home, certain church ministry positions, and much more...while not abandoning male headship in the Home, and Male Spiritual Authority in the Home.

    I also don't think it is the role of a Seminary to teach a woman how to be a wife. I think that is the role of a mother, and of older women in the church.

    You have to understand also, that I recently heard of another SBC big-wig (I will not name him) who's wife, at a recent conference, recounted that she got up early in the morning, turned on the shower, turned on soothing music in the bathroom, set out his towel, and then went to make breakfast for her husband so he would not have to start the morning stressed, since he had important work to do each day. And she NEVER, EVER said no to sx. Ever. Because she believed it to be her role to serve him.
    -Now, part of me as a man would say, "that would be great if my wife did that."...the other part thinks that she is not there to be my maid, but my partner.
    -If this is what makes this woman happy, then I say let her go for it...but it was being held up as the ideal of what a christian wife should be, and I think that's just wrong; taking a scriptural idea and applying it incorrectly.
     
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    Come on, you didn't smile just a bit when reading about the shower/ breakfast routine? Totally a Mohler thing if ever I heard one.

    Makes me wonder how Dot earned her degrees with all the ironing, cooking, cleaning and sewing she had to do?

    Hey, I just happen to think girls weren't just put on this earth to be some strange hybrid sex kitten/ handmaiden to their husbands.

    Submission is a two way street.
     
  8. mandym

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    Its not necessary to belittle that. It is not a "just" thing. It has great importance and should be respected equally with any career out there.
     
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    Jerome Well-Known Member
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    "S-x kitten" should be respected equally with any career out there? :eek:
     
  10. mandym

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    The mean and nasty nature of the left is just astounding.
     
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    Wouldn't it just be easier to say they think boys are better then girls?
     
  12. 12strings

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    what I believe she meant (and you know it) is that being a wife and mother is equal to any career.

    But really, mandym, you left yourself open to that one.... :)
     
  13. mandym

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    I didnt leave myself open to anything for anyone not mean spirited.
     
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    Peculiar choice of words...:laugh:
     
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    So is being a husband or a father. Why didn't it say "Al Mohler," homemaker, father, professor..."

    And why can't men take the homemaking classes? Those are valuable things for anyone to learn.
     
  16. mandym

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    Sad, very very sad
     
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    Again, a mischaracterization of a theological position based on a few examples.
     
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    Actually, it was not Mohler, at least as far as I know.
     
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    Why don't you respond and tell me why you think it's sad? I don't understand why there is such a double standard.
     
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    I do not either.....and I don't understand why any disagreement on here is attacked with you being called a "liberal." The liberal cries from some folks are actually pretty comical.
     
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