Brethren: Please read the following quote. I also hyperlinked to it. We are reading the Trellis and the Vine about training young ministers in the local church. I think you will find Dr. Mohler's quote and entire address extremely informative as well as interesting and provocative. http://andynaselli.com/theology/al-mohler-the-cost-of-conviction "The Cost of Conviction" "There is a sense in which I believe the perfect model of theological education is one man called of God, pouring himself into another man called of God, on the basis on the authority of the Word of God. I think there is no model greater, or better, or more powerful than that." "One of my ambitions is to put my institution out of business in 20 to 30 years, if the Lord allows. I don't really mean that there won't be any use for the buildings or the books or the faculty. But one of my main ambitions is to get us out of the business of training ministers, and get us back in the business of training churches to train ministers - that's where it needs to take place." Let me know what you think. It seems this has been discussed here before but not by someone of Dr. Mohler's stature. Hoping to shed more light than heat. :smilewinkgrin: "That is all!"