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Dr. Bruce Ivins:Anthrax suspect who committed suicide:letters

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aISYbjD1tOs






    http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=78274


    Conservative Christians now feeling their oats
    Originally published November 21, 2004

    I would like to comment on the letter to the editor, "Wants off Christian Nation Express," of Nov. 12.

    I am certainly pleased that the writer is dedicated to service in the love of God, even though I find her theological focus on agony and suffering rather than the hope, joy and salvation of the resurrection to be puzzling.

    Whether Americans like it or not, the results of the presidential election have propelled charismatic and evangelical Christians into new heights of political power. Many of those individuals would agree that the laws of this nation should be compatible with the Gospel, if not actually based upon it.

    Whether we're on the "Christian Nation Express" or not, we all need to be ready for a wild political ride these next four years through a landscape of issues deemed important by conservative Christians.



    All aboard!
    Originally published November 09, 2004

    I read Deborah Carter's column of Nov. 7, "Election blues," and I have three comments for the good woman, and for everybody else, as well.

    First, it's clear that views like hers would put Jesus on that cross again. Second, thy loom and churn best be still, come the Sabbath. Third, you can get on board or get left behind, because that Christian Nation Express is pulling out of the station!

    Moral views not a new trend
    Originally published March 05, 1998

    Among the front-page articles in The News-Post of Feb. 27 was a rather ominous one entitled "Panel OKs funding for assisted suicide."

    The news report dealt with a decision by the Oregon Health Services Commission that assisted suicide should be funded by state taxpayers. Commission chairman Alan Bates excoriated those whose beliefs led them to oppose the commission's decision, and asserted that "religious opponents have no right to impose their moral views on others."

    From that statement it is clear that Dr. Bates' knowledge of medicine is substantially greater than his familiarity with American history.

    Even before America was a nation, there was strong opposition to slavery from the religious group known as the Quakers, or the "Society of Friends." They were steadfast in their belief that slavery was a sin, and this belief led them to be actively involved in the Abolitionist Movement and the "Underground Railroad" in this country.

    We should all be thankful that these religious opponents were quite willing to "impose their moral views on others."

    In more recent times we need look no further than those ministers, rabbis and priests whose beliefs brought them to the forefront in the battle against forced, racial segregation in America. Despite real threats to life and limb, they persisted in their efforts to "impose their moral views on others."

    Today we frequently admonish people who oppose abortion, euthanasia, assisted suicide or capital punishment to keep their religious, moral, and philosophical beliefs to themselves.

    Before dispensing such admonishments in the future, perhaps we should gratefully consider some of our country's most courageous, historical figures who refused to do so.


    I learned this morning as with everyone else that the FBI was going to charge him with murder and seek the Death Penalty. His letters do shine some light on
    who he was and it seemed as if he had some zealotry. He was very intelligent but combined with the zealotry and his ability to produce death in the lab along
    with his right wing views it seems he may have crossed a line.

    We shall see in the days ahead who this person is even more but I thought his letters to editors is a beginning.

    Gods grace and comfort to all who died and who grieve even this mans family.
     
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    Bump as story continues to evolve

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    Report: Prior to Suicide, Ivins Allegedly Threatened Counselor

    http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/08/01/report-prior-to-suicide-ivins-allegedly-threatened-counselor/

    He was a parishioner and musician at St. John the Evangelist Roman Catholic Church, as well as a member of Frederick's American Red Cross chapter.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/01/AR2008080101616.html

    Anthrax Suspect Known for Quiet Research, Odd Behavior
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/01/AR2008080102326.html

    Now we are getting two different takes, he may have been upset he could not test his vaccines but in light of reading his letters and his attack on Leahy and Daschale I think it is something more. I think his therapist who asked for protection knew better.
     
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    From the Wall Street Journal Opinion Piece

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121789293570011775.html?mod=googlenews_wsj



    "From what we know so far, Bruce Ivins, although potentially a brilliant scientist, was not that man. The multiple disciplines and technologies required to make the anthrax in this case do not exist at Army's Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases. Inhalation studies are conducted at the institute, but they are done using liquid preparations, not powdered products.

    The FBI spent between 12 and 18 months trying "to reverse engineer" (make a replica of) the anthrax in the letters sent to Messrs. Daschle and Leahy without success, according to FBI news releases. So why should federal investigators or the news media or the American public believe that a lone scientist would be able to do so?"


    I think this was domestic terrorism and starting to have doubts it was a lone person who did this.
     
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