Dr. Erwin Lutzer a Calvinist? Reformed? Or what?

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  1. evangelist6589

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    I love this author and preacher. However I wonder if he really is a Calvinist. I think (after reading many of his books and hearing him preach many times) he is a cross between both camps. His eschatology is dispensational, and he also favors the sinners prayer (he uses it often). Also some of his views can be quite strange in some areas. I have heard him say on podcast that a christian can fall into new age and still be saved, just unrepentant. MacArthur is all lordship, so he would say he was a false convert or what not. I have hard Lutzer say other strange things in various books. For example on pp 73 of his book The Serpent of Paradise he says the following.

    This is a very radical statement and I am not sure if its from the Bible, or from a Hollywood movie. Some filmmakers believe that devils can take on the form of a human. In the X-files season 8 there is a episode where a devil takes the form of a young boy. Its a freaky episode and can give anyone the creeps if they analyze it carefully. Also there is a Twilight Zone episode of a devil taking the form of a human that died. This is not as dark, but the theology is warped. Maybe what Lutzer says is correct and devils can take the form of humans that have died. I am not sure that we know for sure 100%. But if so then the X-files maker is correct in his theology even though Chris Carter is not saved. Go watch that episode from X-files season #8 episode Invocation


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    I would say he's referring the the giants in Genesis 6. This is alluded to in the book of Jude in which he takes a teaching from the book of Enoch about the pre flood cohabitation of fallen angels and humans.
     
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    Hmm…. I dont know if demons can appear as humans. Perhaps they can.
     
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    I think Dr. Lutzer is known as a Calvinist. Good for him, we need more who proclaim truth such as he does.
     
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    His conclusions in “Doctrines that Divide” would indicate so. (It’s an interesting book, by the way)
     
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    I like him no question about it. However not all his views are Calvinist as mentioned. How many Calvinist believe or use the sinners prayer? He is the only one that I know of.
     
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    "Oh, that the unconverted among you may be moved to pray. Before you leave this place, breathe an earnest prayer to God, saying, "God be merciful to me a sinner. Lord, I need to be saved. Save me. I call upon thy name." Join with me in prayer at this moment, I entreat you. Join with me while I put words into your mouths, and speak them on your behalf—"Lord, I am guilty. I deserve thy wrath. Lord I cannot save myself. Lord, I would have a new heart and a right spirit, but what can I do? Lord, I can do nothing, come and work in me to will and to do of thy good pleasure. 'Thou alone hast power, I know, To save a wretch like me; To whom, or whither should I go If I should turn from thee?' But I now do from my very soul call upon thy name. Trembling, yet believing, I cast myself wholly upon thee, O Lord. I trust the blood and righteousness of thy dear Son; I trust thy mercy, and thy love, and thy power, as they are revealed in him. I dare to lay hold upon this word of thine, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Lord, save me tonight, for Jesus' sake. Amen." —Charles Spurgeon, "A Free Grace Promise" (1888)
     
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    A. W. Pink, Gleanings in Genesis:

    "The reference in Jude 6 to the angels leaving their own habitation, appears to point to and correspond with these "sons of God" (angels) coming in unto the daughters of men. Apparently, by this means, Satan hoped to destroy the human race (the channel through which the woman's Seed was to come) by producing a race of monstrosities. How nearly he succeeded is evident from the fact, that with the exception of one family, "all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth" (Gen. 6:12). That monstrosities were produced as the result of this unnatural union between the "sons of God" (angels) and the daughters of men, is evident from the words of Genesis 6:4: "There were giants in the earth in those days." The Hebrew word for "giants" here is nephilim, which means fallen ones, from "naphal" to fall."
     
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    have heard that those demons were tied into what peter and Jude described as being held in Judgement in the Underworld, waiting for Judgement day!

    Also heard that it related to ungodly lineage through corrupted line of sinful man, NOT doing with fallen Angels!
     
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    Think that he would be seen as the free will grace equivalent to the Lordship salvation of Dr John M!
     
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    [filthy languag removed]
     
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