Dr. Jack Schaap thinks sin is a joke

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  1. sanderson1769

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    Listen to this 2 minute mp3 montage of perverted statements and off-color jokes made by Pastor Jack Schaap (First Baptist Church of Hammond, Indiana)in just one sermon!

    Why does everything have to be perverted with this guy? Fools make a mock at sin.

    Here is the link (it's part of the second item on the page, labelled "clip #3"):

    http://www.hardpreaching.com/page4.html

    Sincerely,

    Pastor Steven L Anderson
    Faithful Word Baptist Church
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    I am very conservative. In fact as has been said by others I am so far right that Jerry Falwell has to turn his head right to see me. I have trouble with this characterization of Dr. Schaap. I listened to the short version and the description of what he said is incorrect. This kind of rediculous characterization of what people say appears kneejerk and over the top.


    At no time did Dr. Schaap condone sin of any kind. What he did say is "in the midst of their sin do not write them off". "so long as I am Pastor behind this pulpit if they come in these doors and want help this church will be here for them". And this he said od homosexuals.

    As far as the Pope is concerned he did not call him a godly man. Dr. Schaap characterized how catholics see him and their mourning of thier loss. To mischaracterize statements this incorrectly is a false witness and a sin. All who are invloved with the false maligning of this man should repent from their shallow, incorrect, and false witnesss.

    When the church loses all compassion for the lost because it is so afraid to get near certain sins then it fails to meet God's standards. Compassion for the lost is not an acceptance of the sin. We should always call sin just what it is. But be willing to minister to those who have need and are looking for a way out. Even if it is a homosexual. The fear I see among conservatives is ungodly. And this thread is as well.
     
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    I listened to the first sermon. It was good. It was heart wrenching. It was good. Ron and I said "Praise God" and "Oh my" several times over breakfast. We should start every day with a sermon at breakfast.

    I listened to the montage -- a cut and paste hack job. I will admit that it didn't sound good, BUT I would hate for a series of any of my off-the-cuff comments to be taken out of context like that. Is this even legal for you to do that?

    My question to you is this, "Is this attack on Jack Schaap edifying to the Lord?" Brother, you can stand up and tell the truth of the gospel and let people compare the truth to what others say without tearing down preachers who are also spreading the gospel. The time you spend digging dirt and compiling montages would be better spent in study. I think you are in error in the things in which you go after. It appears to me that you lack discernment and grace, so that is my prayer for you - that the Lord will give you discernment and grace.
     
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    I posted and deleted several post. Below are the comments that I feel the OP deserves


     
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    Please don't feed the trolls!
     
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    All of the audio clips were taken from one sermon and were not taken out of context.

    The entire sermon is there to listen to, and his perverted statement don't sound any better or worse when you listen to the entire sermon. They were put together in a montage to illustrate the quantity of perversity in one sermon alone.

    Sincerely,

    Pastor Steven L Anderson
    Faithful Word Baptist Church
    www.faithfulwordbaptist.org
     
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    Is this just a lie, or do you need to listen to the audio again?

    Who do you think you're fooling? He calls the pope "a godly man" in those exact words, and anyone can listen to the clip and hear it for themselves.

    Sincerely,

    Pastor Steven L Anderson
    Faithful Word Baptist Church
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    And this is the one point in my post you chose to address?

    OK, then let the sermon stand on it's own, because anything without the surrounding dialogue is out of context. Again, study and preach the gospel. Let people decide on their own what is perversion based on the truth of the gospel. It's not your job to tear down a brother publically.

    Have you contacted Bro. Schaap to discuss your concerns with him privately or are you just intent on embarrassing him publically? Again, is this campaign against him edifying to our Lord and Savior? I don't see where it is.
     
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    You are wrong - he said that many young people see him as a man of God. Like everything you post you are full of half truths, innuendos, lies, and ungodly attacks on the body of Christ.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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    Your montage is deceptive and does nothing but harm to the body of Christ.

    I think this dear brother is in need of our prayers folks. Instead of feeding his ego with replies perhaps we should pray that he would experience the God of love and in so doing learn how to show the love of God.

    My heart breaks for you brother.
     
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    I think you meant harm..
    The right to bear arms discussion is in another forum...:laugh:

    But you have to say this Sanderson is participating! :applause:

    I disagree with him, (although, I don't like Schaap either) but he is participating...
     
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    Thanks for posting that while I was editing Tim :). You got me ;).
     
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    sorry... I couldn't resist.
     
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    For a second, I thought I'd hit a time warp and went back in time. It's deja vu all over again, because Sanderson attacked Schaap back in March. Here's the link to it.

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=38036&highlight=schaap

    It's a baseless, slanderous attack, and what we've come to expect of Sanderson.

    Well said, Bitsy.

    C4K, you closed this thread back in March. I propose the same thing be done to a thread where attacks are made that have absolutely no basis in fact.

    Personally, I loved that sermon by Jack Schaap. I thought he did a great job of balancing his preaching against sin with compassion for the sinner. That's not an easy line to walk.
     
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    Sanderson, I don't know Jack Schaap. I didn't know his father-in-law either but I did write him. I had an issue with Curtis Hudson and Hyles about the doctrine of repentance. I wrote and talked with them about it. If you are so concerned with Jack Schaap's ministry I suggest you talk to him.
     
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    It is so easy to malign someone behind their back when they cannot answer.

    How would you like it if one of your parishioners did this to you on the Internet instead of talking directly to you? Follow the Biblical principles when dealing with this kind of matter.

    I agree with the other posters. Contact Pastor Schaap and talk to him - man to man - instead of slandering his name.

    This is worse than an anonymous letter and carries about as much weight...

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    Pastors are human beings. Subject to animosities, dislikes, peeves, etc.

    For some reason, there are pastors who just hate the guts of other pastors.

    I've known a few in my time.

    I think the OP just doesn't like Mr. Schaap, for whatever reasons.

    At any rate, please don't suck us into that black hole.
     
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    Spamderson hates everybody.

    Rhetorical question, though...

    If Dr. Schaap were on television, would Sanderson hit Schaap with a baseball bat, or just the TV?
     
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    contacting him would be the biblical thing to do when you have something agaisnt him,, so I don't expect sanderson to do that.
     
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    I listened to the 14 minute clip... and I have a question...

    Where can I get the rest of that sermon.. That is the best sermon I have heard for a loooong time.
    And folks, may I remind you, I don't like Schaap!

    But God was speaking through him that day!
    The problem with sanderson is God stepped on his toes, and he doesn't want to deal with the hate that is in his heart!

    Sanderson, your sins are as bad as the homosexual you damn to Hell!

    Schaap is 100% right in that sermon.

    As for your cut and paste job, you should be ashamed of yourself!

    I do want to thank you... after listening to this, I realize I may have been too hard on Schaap. And I repent of things I have said about him.

    It is apparent he has the love of Christ... that is something, Sanderson, you could use... or find.

    I am going to listen to it again...
    More Christians need to hear this one....

    Does anyone know where I can find this on the net, without going through Sanderson's abominable website?
     
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