1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Dr Jeffress and the Mormons

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    What if one of GOP candidates was a Jew? That's considered a non-Christian religion - would that disqualify him/her? What about a practicing Native American Indian candidate? Their religious beliefs are mostly non-Christian - would that be a disqualifying factor? What about of the founding fathers - many of them were deists and didn't believe in the Trinity - you would need to disqualify them as well. What about Catholics?

    I would like to refer you all to the last sentence of Article VI of the Constitution, and it reads as follows: "[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." It doesn't get any clearer than that folks.

    WM
     
  2. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    9,788
    Likes Received:
    698
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Mormonism is just a cult; look at what Catholicism is:

    The Westminster Confession of Faith (also the 1689 London Baptist Confession, which others here supposedly "hold to") proclaims that the Pope in Rome is the Antichrist.
     
  3. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    I noticed that you skipped my other examples. Well...

    So the Pope is the Antichrist? According to scripture there are more than one. Hmmm... looks like some bad blood creeping in there.

    WM

    P.s. Just for the record, the Pope isn't on the GOP ticket this time around - although Newt is a recent convert.
     
    #43 WestminsterMan, Oct 11, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 11, 2011
  4. Jerome

    Jerome Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    9,788
    Likes Received:
    698
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Sure there are many antichrists, but the Confessions are quite clear which Antichrist they are referring to:

    that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition (WCF)

    whom the Lord shall destroy with the brightness of his coming (1689LBC)
     
  5. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    OK... so - do you care to address my larger points and the constitutional issue, or are you only interested in bashing Mormons and Catholics exclusively?

    WM

    P.s. The Confessions are a man-made document, so....
     
  6. FriendofSpurgeon

    FriendofSpurgeon Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2003
    Messages:
    3,243
    Likes Received:
    74
    I agree. No sense at all stating that at a political event.

    Is Mormonism a false religion? Absolutely. Is it a cult in the normal sense of the word? Not at all.

    Great article by former Republican congressman Joe Scarborough --
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65562.html
     
  7. jaigner

    jaigner Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,274
    Likes Received:
    0
    Believe it. Is Mormonism a part of evangelical Christianity? Absolutely not. Are they a cult? I don't think it would be accurate to say that.
     
  8. jaigner

    jaigner Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,274
    Likes Received:
    0
    He is a joke. People laugh at him every time he's on the news. I'm not just insulting him.

    The false humility, poorly phrased statements, and public backlash does make me want to puke. There's nothing wrong with that, either.

    And next time you want to simply quote the Bible and assert that there's something wrong with me, please don't use KJV.
     
  9. jaigner

    jaigner Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,274
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm thousands of miles from Wall Street right now, unless there is a Wall Street in my particular town of 100,000.

    I'm not a liberal, though I will often be the most liberal person in a room full of conservatives and the most conservative in a room full of liberals. Basically, I don't put up with all the crap and mind games from each side.
     
  10. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,156
    Likes Received:
    78
    ----------------------------------------------
     
    #50 matt wade, Oct 11, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 11, 2011
  11. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,156
    Likes Received:
    78
    This is not meant to restrict how people vote for a candidate. It simply means that the government itself can't restrict someone from holding office based upon religion.
     
  12. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    We ARE the Government!

    WM
     
  13. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,156
    Likes Received:
    78
    Must we play words games?
     
  14. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    Word games... right. US Govenrment 101.

    WM
     
  15. Ruiz

    Ruiz New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2010
    Messages:
    2,021
    Likes Received:
    0
    Are you two having fun? Don't you know you are supposed to call each other names and endlessly debate about things until you are absolutely exhausted? Having fun is not allowed.:laugh:
     
  16. matt wade

    matt wade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2009
    Messages:
    6,156
    Likes Received:
    78
    If I must explain it to you, then you wouldn't understand it.
     
  17. Alcott

    Alcott Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2002
    Messages:
    9,404
    Likes Received:
    353
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Anyone can hold an office in the USA; certainly can run for elective office and be elected. But who an individual voter chooses can be based on any criteria that voter selects. It can't be any clearer than that.
     
  18. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh... I see, so let's just throw out 200 plus years of tradition. Well, we probably shouldn't complain about Sharia law. If one's criteria is one of religious preference then...

    WM
     
  19. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hmmm... We the People.

    WM
     
  20. WestminsterMan

    WestminsterMan New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    1,092
    Likes Received:
    0
    I apologize. Let the name calling begin!

    WM
     
Loading...