Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

I believe MLK was a good oratator and that was it.
He was the mold that has shaped all black demogogues since himself. Is Jessie Jackson a
"Reverend"? Extortioner would be more like it.
Al Sharpton, :Louis Farrakan, Malcome X, even Mohammad Ali,these fellows have all taken their cues from MLK even though their theologies might have differed.
Why does every major and even small city in America have a street named after MLK? I don't care I just find it odd. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and alot of other founding fathers should have streets named after them in some place other than mostly Washington DC.
IMHO the two most harmful groups of people that have been most harmful in helping black americans succeed have been the demogogues I just mentioned along with the democratic party. Neither group in all reality really wants black americans to succeed.IF they did they wouldn't continue to use the issues that face the black community for political capital. Fix the problems = no political issue.
Also,what most people fail to realize is that the majority of civil rights laws that were passed in this country were passed by republican senators and congressmen. The proof is in the pudding. Go look it up the records are there.

 

My opinion of MLK is that he was just a trouble maker. I actually called him that in a 5th grade essay and the teacher loved that I went with my honest opinion. I got an A

ShannonL, so far I have not found an MLK street in my former city nor the one I live in now. Pretty pleased on this end. One bright thing is that in Murfreesboro (former hometown) has a John R. Rice Boulevard. It is where Dr. Rice lived and they actually left the mailbox standing although the house in no longer there. I love it!!! It's about a mile down the road from the Sword buildings.

 

Would appreciate some documentation of some of the charges so I could state an informed opinion.

 

The FBI was investigating MLK because one of his associates, Stanley Levison, was an alleged Communist party member. J. Edgar Hoover, then FBI director, had an openly hostile relationship with MLK. It should also be kept in mind that the McCarthy era was only a decade before.

Here part of the FBI file made available through the Freedom of Information Act that outlines some of the FBI's investigation of MLK. Part1b, page 113 and onward describes the alleged communist connection leading up to survailence of MLK and insinuation of his extramarital affairs.

FBI : FIOA : Martin Luther King, Jr.

Liberal Christianity lead many movements of that time like woman's sufferage and civil rights while Christian "fundamentalism" was opposed to them. While that may not have been true of all fundamentalists of that time and is rarely the case for modern fundamentalists, the Christian landscape was very different in MLK's day.

 

Malcolm X did not take his queues from MLK. Malcolm X disliked MLK and his integrationist views. Also, Malcolm X was older than MLK. Malcolm became a leader of the Nation of Islam just as MLK was becoming known nationally in the early 1950s.

 

I'll try to have a look tomorrow. I do not already that the site is less than reputable in many areas of study.

 

Some quotes from the FBI report I linked to above.

 

What is the point of all this.

The man is dead. And the movement he lead turned out to be good for this country, right.

So I fail to see the point in critisizing a dead man no matter his faults. I guess my question is what is your ultiment goal with this post. Do you want us to hate the man? Why? and what would it accomplish if we all did?

Did MLK have falts, I think he did. Why dont you add some of the good things he did to this post?

 

Scarlett

I did not want to say it, even though I can see no other reason. I was really hoping somebody would have an answer.

This is a rerun of the Rosa Parks thread a couple months ago. That thread made me sick to my stomach.

I think I see a patern.

 

You don't know?

And yet, although no one said anything racist, you do know that it's racism, pure and simple?

You don't know plain, documented, undisputed history, but you know the hearts of writers on a topic concerning which they have not expressed themselves?

Thus the Annual Disgrace continues . . .

 

Pipedude

I was hoping it was something else.

Please give me any other reason for this topic. Just give me one good thing this thread can accomplish and I will be happy.

 

Well, since you said "please," I'll comply.

If we concede that any threads accomplish anything, (a claim which is, itself, disputable), this thread can instruct those who are (1) ignorant of the disgraceful nature of this national holiday and (2) interested in truth. As a result, they might avoid praising God's enemies and advancing that which he opposes.

 

This above referenced site gives me the creeps, I remember running across it 4 or 5 years ago. I still have the heebee-jeebees as I type this.

This stuff is the polar-opposite of Christianity-lite (seeker, purpose-driven, Osteen, etc.) - there's a good deal of truth there but the leaven is deadly. I only glanced at the page but if it's anything like it used to be it is very mean-spirited and reeks of self-righteousness.

 

Pipedude

I read your reasons and again think, what is the point?

This person is dead. It is now up to God to judge him, not us. MLK is the name placed on the civil rights strugle. MLK holiday is a celebration of that strugle. Nobody is going around saying we should sin just like MLK. In fact the charges brought against him are not even well known. He is just the face and name placed on a time in our history that we wish to celebrate.

Why not other historical figures. JFK, Jefferson. Would it be appropriate to look thru the obituarys and then write letters to the editor charging dead old people with sins in their life.

More importently, there are who knows how many lurkers on these forums. Wether this post is meant to be raceist or not, it defentaly looks to be that way.

This post accomplishes nothing good, and it is a bad wittness. It should be removed from this forum.

 

Wow, I had never heard the things I read in the OP. I can't say I know much about the man though.
I would like actual proof also about all those charges. I can't imagine calling him a trouble maker for helping black people gain equal rights and in a peaceful way?

 

The charges in the OP are ancient. I have yet to see substantiation through a reliable source regarding them however.