Dr Mohlers exit strategy of from government schools

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  1. Berean

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    What chance does this have of making it to the floor of the convention? Two prior efforts have failed.
     
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    Not much chance, IMO.

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    The 2005 Resolution did pass, I was there.

    Soli Deo Gloria,
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    Its Home Schooling for my family all the way!! Wouldn't have it any other way! And our homeschool association of families are above measure!!

    But---in the church I pastor there are several public school teachers/instructors rangeing from K-5 through 12th grade whom I believe most to be "top notch" instructors and show spiritual maturity in the class room as well as at church.

    I was at the SB Convention in '05 and was part of the affirmative vote on that specific resolution. Unfortunately--thats about as far as I see it ever going---as a resolution---and a resolution is like a ship with sails---but no wind to speak of!!

    One bright thing about the '05 resolution---as well as what Dr. Mohler has planned is the fact that at least the Convention is getting a "smackeral" or a taste of information about the eventual crash of public school and the rise of home schooling. Maybe one day something better than a resolution will come across the business session of the SBC huh Ms Watkins??!!
     
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    I find it interesting that homeschooling is gaining so much popularity.

    Right now I have a child in public school. And I am grateful for it. He is special needs and needs extensive speech therapy and social skills. And the public school system provides those to me free of charge, in the least restrictive enviroment. Speech therapy is 100 dollars an hour here and there is no way I could provide him with daily social interaction like the public school does.

    I looked around at private Christian schools in the area, and even they did not provide that. In fact there were none that had early eduaction for special needs cildren.

    There is no way I could have gone to college to prepare myself to teach a special needs child. Who on earth considers those things at age 18?
     
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    Wow. That is pretty good. It is about 300 per hour here. Luckily, my son tested out of that about 6 months ago. He is still in physical and occupational therapy at 300 per hour for each one.

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    Whoa...300 an hour. How do they expect you to pay for it...get a second mortgage?
     
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    Insurance and Medicaid. I will probably get crucified by some by mentioning the second part, but oh well. For the record, we do not, and would not take medicaid unless we absolutely had no choice. Hopefully, one day, Jacob will test out of all his therapies and we can get off government assistance for good.

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    This question is for you and Joseph, and anyone else really - does your church provide any help with your special needs children? Part of the resolution to be prevented is a call to ask churches to help meet needs like these, and IMO this is a vital part of the whole issue.
     
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    My church helps me with my kids every week and my child loves every one of them. But they are in no way qualified to teach speech therapy or provide daily peer interaction that he needs to help with his social skills.
     
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    In what way would you like for my Church to help us. We are looking at about $900 per week for an idefinite period of time. If they do it for me, then do they need to do it for every church member that has a special needs child? My Church simply isn't that big or rich.

    Now, for my commentary about churches in general: Most Churches are too busy building a bigger building and doing other things to worry about helping members with special needs children.

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    I forgot to add that my church, while we are a family and we help and love each other, we are trying to shift our main focus to helping the lost. Finding additional resources to help one child that is already provided for and cared for within the Christian community is not what we are about.
     
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    Joseph,

    I was just asking. I didn't mean to offend you.
     
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    I am not offended. I am open to suggestion...and no, I am not being sarcastic, although I know I can come off that way sometimes. For that, I apologize.

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    Well, I really don't know either, that's why I was asking. I do not blame you or anyone else for seeking government assistance when you need it, and with your situation you definitely need it, but I do wonder sometimes whether churches today are too quick to "let the government do it". I'd love to hear some suggestions from anyone whose church is helping people through situations like these.
     
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    My guess is that these Churches are very few and far between for the reasons mentioned in my earlier post.

    I agree with you, BTW. I would argue that until the Church stops trying to keep up with the Joneses by building bigger buildings and making themselves more comfortable that the government will probably continue funding these things.

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    I know that a high majority of the people I come in contact associated with government schools are good and conscious and have a deep concern for education in its proper role. But I think everyone knows the NEA's and its supporting cast opinion on such noncompromising issues such as the proper role of the family, the orgin of man (creation vs evolution)proper use of sex and the way it views homosexuality. If you find yourself agreeing with the government schools on any of these issues, its time for a reality check.
    I think a lot of our pastors are afraid to address this particular subject out of fear. Serving on our major commitees are mmebers of the local gov. school board teachers, principals in addition to being chairman of the deacons.
    Honestly is there anyone who thinks these schools are going to get any better by pouring more money into them?
     
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    While I do use the public school system, I do not forget that I am the parent, and it is my responsiblity to supervise my child's education. I am planning on reading every textbook with my kids and find the wrong teachings and teach and plan accordingly. I think a lot of parents are too content to sit back and just let the government do the parenting for them. The teachers can lay it all out, but I believe it is ultimately up to the parent to build on the structure that is introduced.
     
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    The more money they pour into them and the more standardized tests that they create the less and less teaching happens in the classroom.

    Plus Texas is offering $10,000 bounties to school principals who have a certain percentage of students pass the TEKS. At the High School my daughter goes to the principal is now going around to students that he doesn't think will pass the test and telling them to drop out of school and get their GED.

    The drug problem across this entire school district is also one of the worst in the state. The school board addressed the problem by congratulating the Superintendent who brought about this problem (plus many many other problems) for not quiting his job in shame.

    My son's Junior High School told Him that he cant bring his bible to school. I spoke with his principal and dared him to do anything about it so they didn't harass him about his bible any longer but started to look for other things. He is now home schooled.
     
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    Amen. If you want your children to be successful in school, regardless of where they are (Public, Private, or homeschool), take an active part in their lives and their education. Where they are matters a lot less than who their parents are and how involved they are.

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