Duke McCall's Niece Ordained

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  1. Rev. Joshua

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    I know many of you are opposed to the ordination of women. If you're willing to read the article (it's brief) and reflect, I'd be curious to hear your feedback.

    Duke McCall's Niece Ordained

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  2. Brian

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    Joshua,
    You know good and well what we think..Some will be happy that another woman is tolerated openly violating clear scriptual directives. Others will be very unhappy and probably in dispair over any group with Baptist in its name doing and allowing such things to happen.
     
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    Just a sidebar: Dr. McCall was interim pastor at a church I pastored in Louisville. The founding pastor of the church was Frank Stagg. I think I've been down this road before, so I won't rehash old dust. Anyway, I wish her well and pray God's best for FBC Memphis.
     
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    I'm still hoping that a few folks will read the article. (Here's the link to the church's website as well.)

    This is a historic, conservative (based on the website) baptist church with a deep history with the SBC and Southern Seminary. I certainly think her ordination lends credibility to the possibility that the ordination of women may well become the norm in baptist life over time.

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    Tom, I still mourn the passing of Frank Stagg. From what I understand, Evelyn is always happy to hear from well-wishers.

    Do you know if FBC Memphis is still a part of the SBC? "Southern Baptist" occurs in several places on their website, but that's the case still with many CBF-only churches as well.

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    My opinion lies much with Brian's. Just proves to me once again "signs of the time are everywhere"
     
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    Joshua,
    I'll have to check my TBC Journal to see their alignment.
     
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    Joshua, you obviously know that more people here oppose ordination of women than favor it. But you want to know what we think of the article itself. I think David Waters is filled with glee that another church has broken the "sex" barrier and it spills out all over his paper. As to the significance of this specific ordination, I don't find that much. As specific Southern Baptist churches liberalize they accept the ordination of women more and more often, and the rest of us will hang our Baptist heads a little lower. Do you see some great significance in this particular ordination or find something terribly unusual about the article??
     
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    I have never seen a woman yet that is the husband of one wife. But then again some lesbian might be able to make that claim.
     
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    The day I go into my church and find a women filling the pulpit is the day I leave. Its ungodly, unscriptural, undoctrinal and of the devil. Yeah hath God said?... Did God really... really... really... say that?... Brother Glen [​IMG]
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pioneer:
    I have never seen a woman yet that is the husband of one wife. But then again some lesbian might be able to make that claim.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    I wouldn't be shocked to find that someone did actually make that claim. :eek:
     
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    Ordination of women is not a conservative/liberal issue. Some very conservative denominations have been ordaining women for many years--some for hundreds of years. Women preachers were not uncommon among the early General Baptists.

    Pioneer,

    I bet, though, you've seen some single men preachers; that also violates your criteria--if you're consistent, which you're not--but I don't see you howling about that.
     
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    I thought the same thing, Micheal Wrenn.
     
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    I will. HOWL, HOWL, HOWL, HOOOWWWWLLLL.

    The husband of one wife means the husband of one wife. HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS ? How do you justify deliberately ignoring God's word. Shame on you !!!

    Compromising abounds here on the ole' BB, don't it ?
     
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    Mr Curtis:
    Amen!!!
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    Mr. Curtis,

    "Husband of one wife" also means no single male preachers, if you are consistent in your legalism and literalism. So... HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS??
    How do you deliberately justify ignoring God's word?? Yes, compromising abounds, and so does hypocrisy, among other things.
     
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    I know what it means, & I know what I posted. I am against single male pastors. Hence, my howling.
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Michael Wrenn:
    Pioneer, I bet, though, you've seen some single men preachers; that also violates your criteria--if you're consistent, which you're not--but I don't see you howling about that.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    The women preachers that I have seen are nothing but hussies trying to act like men.

    The phrase "husband of one wife" applies equally to men and women.
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pioneer:


    The women preachers that I have seen are nothing but hussies trying to act like men.

    The phrase "husband of one wife" applies equally to men and women.
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    Pioneer, then I encourage you to read this article and see if this woman sounds like "a hussy trying to act like a man."

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    Regarding the topic of this thread, we all know that this board is dominated by the IFB tradition, one that generally disapproves of the ordination of women.

    So... can we limit discussion to what the article may or may not mean for the future of the ordination of women in SBC churches? It's already a given in ABC, Alliance, and CBF churches.

    Even though the official SBC stance is opposed to the ordination of women, it looks like their autonomous congregations may be thinking a little differently. First Memphis used to be a big Cooperative Program giver. It's pastors and members have been very influential in the SBC in the past. Duke McCall used to be the President of Southern Seminary.

    In other words, First Memphis has solid Southern Baptist credentials. Likewise, Rev. McCall has been active in SBC life for over 50 years.

    Could this be the tip of the iceberg for the SBC?

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