Eating Animals as Food

Just kidding Joe......

BBob,:wavey:

 

Well said. :thumbs:

And welcome to the Baptist Board from a KY farmer.

Ed

 

I was at an auction with a church member some years ago when I pastored in Mississippi----up in Batesville, MS

Lots and lots of beef----and we'd watch the cows come through the sale barn

----some were "Momma" cows that were pregnant---local "Hobbie" cattleman buy these

---some were "Momma" cows with calf---"Ditto" the comment in above statement

---most were nice looking "Feeder" (600lbs + or -) destined for a "Feeder" lot up in Arkansas or Oklahoma---the feeder lot will put more weight on the Bovine(mostly Steers) up to about 1200lbs + or -)---this is the nice looking Bovine--the Angus, Brangus, Limosine, etc) that winds up as nice steak and such

----there were(as I recall) a few "scrub" cows mixed in the auction----they sold for pennies on the dollar----the scrubs were bought by a local processor---the church member I was with and I started teasing each other about the "Scrubs" winding up over at McDonald's, Burger King, Hardies, and elsewere!!!!

I watched an auction today on RFDTV----------the good looking steers--all black----were going for $1.09/lb on average

 

Considering what it cost to fatten a critter these days, that $1.09 wasn't too much., We've got corn that is nearly five bucks a bushel and hay that is a hundred bucks a ton. It is costly to put a "shine" on fats.

When I was a kid growing up, my grandpa always had a feedlot full of fattening cattle . Now it's kind of become a rich man's game.

We're in the dairy business and so of course, when Bossy can't milk anymore , she gets wheels under her, but she's not the steak you eat but probably the burger you get at McD.

Now think of what you would pay for a good steak in a cafe or in the grocery store and compare that to the $1.09 the farmer got. Who's making the money?

When I was a kid, my sister's favorite verse was Acts. 10:13 Rise, Peter, kill and eat. :thumbs: She has never been a vegetable eater but carnivores.

Thank God we can eat. There's an old scandinavian prayer that when translated loosely says:

Some have bread but can not eat. Others can eat, but have no bread. We have bread and we can eat. Therefore we will praise the Lord.

 

Lets seeeeeeeeeee!!!!

I take a Steer to the sale----the sale barn is 40 miles away(one way)----80 miles round trip

The Cherolet "Duely" has a 454 Gasoline engine---that gets maybe 10mpg

It costs 80 smackers to fill the tank

So its gonna cost me a tank of gas to get to the sale and back

I'd better go with more than one calf, don't you reckon???

But we're selling 400/500 lb calves----lets just say---we get a dollar/lb---thats $500 per calf------I can get 25 calves on the trailer---so thats what??? $12,500.00-------------THAT sounds like a lot of money--------BUT(and its a big one!!!)------I wanna keep up my pastures-----so I take that 12,500-----and I go to the Feed/Seed Store and I tell them

"I need a little bit of Triple 13!!"

"How much is a little bit, Mister Blackbird??"

"Give me 20 tons!!!"

"OK!!! Can do!!! That'll be $600/ton!!!"

(Blackbird sloshes his coffee all over the desk top!!!)

"WHAT?????? Last time I bought from you----it wasn't but $400/ton!!! Have mercy, Dude!!! Come on, now!!! Give me a break!!!!"

So I happily and gleefully write out a check for $12,000--------half of what I got for sellin' my calves

Then I want to bail hay---------so I need a little bit of Diesel oil to run my tractors----------so I buy in bulk---------for a discount------non road use Diesel--------and I need about 500 gallons

So I call the fuel folks----friendly group they are, too----tell them "I need you to bring me 500 gallons of the cheapest stuff you got---non road use Diesel #2!!!"

"Sure, Blackbird!!! Be glad to do it!!! That's $3.25/gallon!!!!"

Long pause on the phone

500 gallons times 3.25/gallon = $$$$$$$'s

But the tractors don't run on air or water----so I write another check---happily and gleefully!!!!!

Suddenly----Blackbird's wallet is as "scrawny" as the calves in Pharoah's dream-----Lean years!!! Bite the bullet!!!

Not to mention what Dairymen are gettin' for their milk, huh, danthebaptist!!!????? Dairy feed is how much per ton, now!!!!!?:BangHead: :BangHead:

 

Three possibilities, here!

1. Have you ever considered that maybe you "need to get a bigger truck" - 'er I mean "trailer"?

2. It seems you may have gotten a bit "short-changed" on your math education in government schools, if you think that "half" of "$12,500.00" is "$12,000", as you said. The addition of "$.00" to the figure does not almost 'double' the amount of the dollars!

3. Given your math abilities, have you ever considered actually 'working for the government'? :laugh:

Ed

P.S. Hope that coffee wasn't too hot that you spilled! I really don't wanna' read about another "McDonalds®" style suit over hot coffee!

 

You've got the jest of it.

There are many a person who when they buy that Big Mac have no idea where there food came from nor what it took to produce it.

The cost of dairy feed is astronomical. Last year this time we were getting 13 dollars Cwt but now are getting about 20 bucks. However just the price of hay alone, last year I could get good alfalfa for about 70 bucks and now I can't get even decent stuff for $140.

It would seem someone somewhere would like to crush the little guy. :tonofbricks:

Keep looking up!
Dan

 

Hey, if you can get $200 for your crops, then you could buy an air conditioner. If you cannot afford a Big Mac, try one of these.





Remember, a Big Mac is better than the crow you have eaten in other threads.

 

Joe, I love animals and wouldn't want anyone abusing them the way PETA described.
That is just not right.
Animals are a joy, and many are absolutely intelligent.

But.....

Can you tell me where the Scripture says what you just said above ?

 

One interesting fact that lots of people overlook is that ALL chicken is hormone free now. You cannot use growth hormones on chickens at all. Yet, people will talk about hormone laced meat without differentiating chicken and beef, or they will preach about how you need to shop for meat including chicken with stamps that say it is organic or hormone free. These are all misleading labels, it's the same thing.

While I'm here though, I will say that PETA is a group of crazy people. They started with a good idea, but they've taken it too far. Many of their statements are extremely misleading. They are on the far left of the liberal crowd.

 

Corndoggy, are you sure about the chickens?
I live in poultry country.. and we have a higher rate of cancer than other areas around us, and one theory floating around here is the chemicals that are given to the chickens are polluting us.

This may be a left over theory from days gone by, but I have heard this, and believed it.

Also, everytime I get chicken from the local factory, I get sick.

They have sales every other Thursday where we can buy at wholesale prices, and everytime I eat something from them sells I end up sick.

 

Now I'm concerned. A Baptist preacher who gets sick after eating chicken. That's just not right.

Are you sure you're Baptist??

 

http://www.pmac.net/AM/stop_ads.html

"the ads were misleading, since federal regulations prohibit any commercial grower from adding hormones or steroids to chicken products"

 

I suspect it's more a question of food poisoning than steroids. Chickens now have very weak immune systems, and improper butchering and handling can make you sick. I suspect they have "sales" when they have a surplus that is about to go bad.

love,

Sopranette

 

Are you sure? My parents live near a chicken factory. The chickens are butchered at a very young age, like 4 months, I think. We used to raise chickens and I can tell you they were NOT big enough to butcher at such a young age, no matter what kind of chickens they were. Something is making those chickens big if they can be butchered so young, and I really doubt it's anything "natural."

 

I am quite sure that commercial farms cannot give chickens hormones or steroids. I do know they are bred a certain way to get as big as possible as quickly as possible, and I'm sure their feed is spiked somehow, but no, there are no steroids and they are not getting growth hormones.

 

That might explain a lot!

 

When I lived in Mississippi II was "near and dear" to many Poultery growers----"near and dear" as in------a certain "stench" lingering in the air ----- a la Ammonia----best I can describe it----like a dirty wet sock that has "aged" about two weeks

The growers are "open" as to revealing what is fed the chickens----actually---the growers(farmers) have nothing to do with what is and is not fed the chickens

The Poultery company(Sanderson Farms, in this case) ships the chicks to the growers---the growers do not "own" the chicks---they grow the chicks into chickens for Sanderson Farms

The feed comes from Sanderson Farms feed mills direct to the grower----meaning the grower is required to feed Sanderson Farm chicks with Sanderson Farm feed

The chicks are "grown off" at 7 lbs----in about 12 weeks

When the chickens are collected---there's someone there(usually) from Sanderson Farm watching---if the bird weighs "more" than 7 lbs---its left at the grower----or if it doesn't weigh what is required at collection time---its left at the grower-----one grower that I was friends with calls me up one day

"Preacher!!! They came and got my chickens but they left over 1000 of um because they were too big!!!!

I can go on and on----but do a comparison----we have a small minority of people who are raising "Free Range" chickens for human consumption---compare the taste difference between "Free Range" and "Farm" raised----I guarantee---theres a difference in texture and taste----"Free Range" chickens will be about as tough as 16 penny nails compared to "farm" raised

Not that none of this as anything to do with that, thats for sure!!!!

 

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