Economic Treason

Of course. The democrats are being paid off by the same people paying off Bush.

Most of the magnates contribute huge amounts to both wings of the demopublicans.

Makes sense.

 

The question is, If all those jobs were in America, paying American wages, who would be able to purchase the products? I sure wouldn't. Only the wealthiest 1% would be able to. I think Buchanan is way overstating the point with such rhetoric. This is not a democrat vs republican issue as much as it is a financial one. Companies have to remain viablet to survive. And of the major costs they can control is wages.

 

So if your church decided they were paying you too much and wanted to import a pastor from Peru at half your salary, you wouldn't mind.

 

And he probably made the statement while drinking coffee from a 'Made in China' mug, behind his Dell computer, in his 'Assembled in Bangladesh or Mexico' business suit.

Who of us are willing to initiate change, and can we do it on a large enough scale? Are we willing to pay the higher price of buying American (if such a thing exist anymore)? America began the shift to a service-oriented economy years ago. It will continue on that course. My advice--Invest in the Blue Chip, dividend paying companies that are making the money. Pat is probably pretty accurate in his prediction regarding America in 2050, so you will need to know the exact time to cash out and flee. To which country?. Who knows?.

 

Pastor Larry is correct when he says this is not a republican vs democrat issue. It's a global socialism issue, and as such it is one sided but pretends to have two sides to keep the peasants from becoming wise to the backroom dealings going on between those that seek the next one world empire.

American's making American wages and having a strong middle class just gets in the way of global progress.

 

Well said, Poncho.

 

Seems like folks only believe in labels, so lets pass this one around awhile...Global Socialism...paid for with your money and your future with a little help from our good friends from south of the border.

Have a nice day Amexica.

 

And as G.W would say "citizens of the world" have a good day!

 

Sending jobs will help them faster than sending missionaries.

 

What can I say LE? I guess I was just feeling my oatmeal kick in!

 

The founder intended for the federal government to use tarrifs as a source of income. If they would replace much of the income tax with tarrifs, prices of imports would rise, and disposable income would rise proportionately, allowing workers to produce goods in the USA. As has been pointed out, though, the "big boys" recognize no national boundaries in their businesses, and pretty much own the politicians.

The effects of the gutting of our manufacturing base will be staggering, possibly of historically tragic proportions. But, the politicians don't care...we pay their fat pensions or go to jail.

 

I believe that much of the fault lies with the consumer who shops at Wal-Mart and buys goods made in China rather than U.S. goods at a store that pays union wages and gives its employees a good benefit package. About 25 years ago I happened to walk past a car that had U.S. Navy decals on it, including three stars, indicating that the car was owned and used by a three star admiral. I also noticed that the car was made in Japan. I was sick the rest of the day.

I am careful where I shop and I ALWAYS look at the label to find out where the goods are made. If you want to bring jobs back to the U.S., buy goods made in the U.S. If you really can’t afford to buy new goods made in the U.S., buy them used in a thrift store, but don’t support manufactures who have moved to China where they can legally get away with paying their employees less than a dollar an hour.

And when you buy that car, SUV, or truck, look at the sticker to see where the parts were manufactured and where the parts were assembled.

For those of you who live outside of the U.S. and are citizens of another country, I encourage you to buy products made in your own country.

 

A pastor from Peru could not live in Peru and make Peruvian wages and pastor this church.

Several issues in play here. If they are unemployed, they find jobs. There are jobs available and the economy is picking up. If they don't have jobs, we who do have jobs try to help them as we can. If they are working for lower salaries, God still takes care of his people. The people at Macedonia gave out of their poverty ... What a testimony against the materialistic church we live in today.

The US has never "brought jobs back." They ahve always created new and better jobs. You know folks, like isn't fair and it is not the governments job to make it fair. It is remarkable to me to see people arguing that America should be fat and happy while the rest of the world lives in poverty because their jobs don't pay much money. Why do you think we as American Christians have that attitude? Why don't we have the attitude of trying to help them?

For instance, Jim recently jumped on me for arguing that wages are determined by the market. He said that we as Christians should be willing to pay people a decent living salary. (I incidentally agreed with that principle, but maintain that "decent living salary" is determined by the market.) Now, Jim seems to be arguing that we should only pay Americans a decent living salary and those in other parts of the world should be left in poverty so Americans can live fat and happy. That doesn't make sense ... and I am not trying to start an argument with Jim about it. It just seems inconsistent.

I think that when jobs overseas go up, our exports increase because people overseas can afford American products. Right now, you can export American goods to places where no one can buy them becuase they don't make enough money.

We live in a global economy where you can ship stuff around the world overnight. What used to be the trade dynamics between, say, Virginia and New York, is now the trade dynamic between Brazil and Canada, or Japan and the US. The American company and worker have to survive on better quality, not lack of competition. The consumer loses when competition is cut. In a sports analogy, a team that goes undefeated is not necessarily better than a team that goes winless. It depends on the quality of the competition. If you want to get better, you have to compete. American has always shown the ability to do better than every other nation in the world. This will be no exception.

 

One thing that can help hold jobs here is tort reform and sweeping away of excessive federal regulations dealing with employment, hiring and firing, and the liability of the employer in cases involving employees. For example, women have filed a class-action lawsuit against Wal-Mart for failure to promote them. Such business as who is promoted and who is not promoted should be outside the realm of the federal government.

 

If the working class could not buy Chinese stuff at Walmart, who would benefit the most? The working class or the merchant class?

 

In the long run it would benefit the working class. I am not a member of that class, and I would not benefit financially (indeed, it would cost me a lot of money), but I am more than willing to make the sacrifice so that more Americans can have good paying jobs and a good benefits package. I am also willing to pay much higher taxes so that all Americans can be guaranteed good health care, but I suppose that makes me the devil himself.