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Election 2012: Is the FIX already in?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by LadyEagle, Apr 10, 2012.

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  1. LadyEagle

    LadyEagle <b>Moderator</b> <img src =/israel.gif>

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dmJtaOO2etc

    I checked this out - it is true.....

    As usual, Republicans are asleep at the wheel - The FIX IS IN, on the 2012 election. How could Republicans, especially those in Congress, let this happen? Our votes on the 2012 election will be counted overseas (Spain) by SCYTL who bought SOE an elections processing company - Turns out the CEO of SCYTL was a major Obama contributor....

    ....."With the merger of SOE and SCYTL, that won’t work (if SCYTL’s voting system is used). When there are two truly independent sources of information, the public can perform its own “audit” by matching one number against the other. These two independent sources, however, will now be merged into one single source: an Internet voting system controlled by SCYTL, with a results reporting system also controlled by SCYTL. With SCYTL internet voting, there will be no ballots. No physical evidence. No chain of custody. No way for the public to authenticate who actually cast the votes, chain of custody, or the count. SCYTL is moving into or already running elections in: the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Norway, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates, South Africa, India and Australia."

    Read the whole article here: http://investmentwatchblog.com/foreign-company-buys-u-s-election-results-reporting-firm/

    So, I guess it doesn't matter if states have voter picture ID laws or how many dead people or illegal people vote - Eric Holder has those bases covered anyway. And now this. I can't believe Republicans are letting this happen - why is SPAIN counting our votes on THEIR servers? And there is no way to authenticate the results! This is so disgusting! Transparency? BAH!
     
  2. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    This is Sad...

    Thanks for the head up; if only the GOP would get on board??? :tear:
     
  3. billwald

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    Don't worry. Republicans have the Supreme Court more firmly fixed than when Bush2 stole his 2nd term.
     
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  5. LadyEagle

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    I don't trust Snopes - I have found them to be very biased in favor of Obama, IMO. If you trust Snopes, that is up to you. Here is another source, very few out there because this issue has been ignored by the main stream media, as per usual. But it should be very concerning for Americans that our votes will be counted overseas with no chain of command or verification on the results.

    Another link to the story, scroll down to see a Chicago connection:

    http://patriotupdate.com/articles/what-is-scytl-why-should-you-be-very-very-concerned
     
  6. InTheLight

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    What part about "the individual states run their own elections" is there not to trust?
     
  7. LadyEagle

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    "An internationally-headquartered company, SCYTL, is now taking over online U.S. voting systems.

    The company has previously faced questions about the security of its electronic voting technologies, which are now set to be deployed in 900 U.S. jurisdictions.

    The firm already provides balloting for overseas U.S. military and civilian voting in nine states plus elections technologies in several districts."

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    "The states that used SCYTL’s technologies during the Midterms were New York, Texas, Washington, California, Florida, Alabama, Missouri, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, New Mexico, Nebraska, West Virginia and Washington DC."

    http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2012/01/18/obama-donor-scytl/
     
  8. InTheLight

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    Newsflash: We don't have online voting in the U.S. The real story here is that SCYTL will be the company that distributes election results on the internet AS THEY RECEIVE them from local and state authorities. See:

    http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/08/tech/web/online-voting/index.html
     
  9. poncho

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    Newsflash: We have computerized voting systems in the US. Easliy hacked computer voting systems. They have modems. That makes them an "online" system.
     
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    From Wikipedia: "# Problems in the United States general elections, 2006:

    * During early voting in Miami, Hollywood and Fort Lauderdale, Florida in October 2006 three votes intended to be recorded for Democratic candidates were displaying as cast for Republican. Election officials attributed it to calibration errors in the touch screen of the voting system.
    * In Pennsylvania, a computer programming error forced some to cast paper ballots. In Indiana, 175 precincts also resorted to paper. Counties in those states also extended poll hours to make up for delays.
    * Cuyahoga County, Ohio: The Diebold computer server froze and stopped counting votes then the printers jammed so paper copies could not be retrieved for many votes and there was no way to be sure of the accuracy of the votes when the votes were being counted.
    * Waldenburg, Arkansas: The touch screen computer tallied zero votes for one mayoral candidate who confirmed that he certainly voted for himself and therefore there would be a minimum of one vote, this is a case of disappearing votes on touchscreen machines.
    * Sarasota, Florida: There was an 18,000 person "undervote" in a congressional election. The subsequent investigation found that the undervote was not caused by software error. Poor ballot design was widely acknowledged as the cause of the undervote.

    # Instances of faulty technology and security issues surrounding these machines were documented on August 1, 2001 in the Brennan Center at New York University Law School. NY University Law School released a report with more than 60 examples of e-voting machine failures in 26 states in 2004 and 2006. Examples included Spanish language ballots that were cast by voters but not counted in Sacramento in 2004."
     
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    Show one instance where Snopes as propagated false information. One. Please. One instance.
     
  12. InTheLight

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    I don't trust right wing generated viral e-mails that make stuff up out of thin air to attack Obama. There is plenty of true, verifiable stuff already out there about Obama that conservatives could use to attack him.

    If you don't like Snopes there is TruthorFiction and Urban Legends.
     
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    None of these were online voting examples. People went to the polling place and cast their vote on an electronic voting machine, not sit at home and vote via their PC. None of these are examples of "The Fix Being In", but are examples of unintentional errors or snafus.
     
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    While I do not believe this claim, email was not the source. You may want to click on the link in the op.
     
  15. mandym

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    Here you go:


    http://www.metroedit.com/2009/05/how-accurate-is-snopescom/
     
  16. InTheLight

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    I did. You may now go ahead and click on this link and read "collected via email, April 12, 2012."

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/scytl.asp
     
  17. billwald

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    A Democrat congress proposes far left legislation that doesn't have a chance of passing. After the next flip flop, a Republican congress passes farther left legislation that the Democrats would not dare to propose.
     
  18. LadyEagle

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    Here is a video about SCYTL with information taken from their web site:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goPrmUpEKGc&feature=player_embedded#!


    More: <snip> "Fifth, SCYTL is owned by the former CEO of Global Net, who made the maximum legal donation to the Obama campaign in 2008. It has been speculated that he has a relationship with Media Matters, but it is unknown if that relationship extends to MM founder George Soros.

    Sixth, Senior Chief Geoff Ross, U.S. Navy, retired, wonders if the choice of SCYTL is the reason Obama sounded so confident of his reelection when he was overheard on a live microphone telling the Russian President that much more could be done about nuclear arms after the November elections. Ross further wonders who made the decision to go with SCYTL and how. Was it an Obama Executive Order? Did the Federal Elections Commission make the choice? Was it approved by Congress?

    Seventh, given that vote counting is the responsibility of state and local elections commissions, how many of these entities have contracted with SCYTL to do their counting for them? Are these local elections commissions being pressured by the feds at the FEC to contract out their electronic vote tabulations to SCYTL? Is this another attempt of the Obama Administration to usurp local authority?"

    Source: http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/nov-2012-vote-tabulation-raising-concerns
     
  19. InTheLight

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    Rush Limbaugh would be proud of the innuendo and leading questions being used in this post.
     
  20. poncho

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    Well bravo. InTheDark whips up yet another brilliant repudiation of the facts by not addressing the facts. :rolleyes:
     
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