End times charting

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Chad, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. Chad

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    Hi everyone,
    This is my first post. In fact, I joined in order to ask for help on this subject. Hopefully somebody out there can give me a hand.

    I was recently asked a question pertaining to the role of saved Jews versus church age Christians in the Millenial Kingdom. Specifically, "Will the Jewish beleivers constitute a more blessed class? It immediately brought to mind a few charts that appeared in Progressive Dispensationalism to show the eschatological views expressed by several dispensational theologians. Does anyone know if there is a good place to find these graphics aside from P.D.? I really don't want to buy the book and copying it at the library is copyright infringment. Any help would be appreciated.

    Chad
     
  2. OldRegular

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    I hate to burst your bubble but any books regarding the role of saved Jews versus church age Christians in the Millennial Kingdom would be impure fiction!
     
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    Hi Chad!

    Welcome to the Baptist Board! [​IMG]

    I pray that we will be a blessing to you, and you to us.

    P.S. Did the posts above meet your need?

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  8. Ransom

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    Chad asked:

    I really don't want to buy the book and copying it at the library is copyright infringment. Any help would be appreciated.

    Copying small amounts of a book for personal use is generally not considered infringement. I would think that a single chart out of a book would qualify as fair use.
     
  9. Mel Miller

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    Chad,

    You are wondering about "the role of saved Jews versus church age Christians in the Millenial Kingdom".

    The eternal home of the Bride of the Lamb will
    be the New Jerusalem when it comes down upon/ over the New Earth after the Millennium.

    But the eternal Kingdom on earth inherited by
    Israel, when they accept their Messiah at His
    second coming, will also be inherited by all
    the "sheep" nations who come to Jerusalem to worship the true God during the Millennium.

    I see the separation between "sheep and goats"
    taking place after Christ "sits on His throne"
    and not at the beginning of His reign. There
    is no criteria at present by which the goats
    will be judged on the basis of their treatment
    of the "brothers of Jesus". Matt.25:31-46.

    The goat nations are not sent to Hell until
    the end of the Millennium. During that period
    only the Beast and False Prophet are confined
    to Hell.

    The sheep nations will dwell on the earth after
    the Millenniun but have access to heaven. Rev.21:24-26. They must enter from time to time to be "healed by the leaves of the tree of life" (just as they must be healed in the Millennium). Rev.22:2,14 and Ezek.47:12.

    Mel Miller www.lastday.net
     
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    Mortal Man supposedly dwell in the supposed earthly millennial kingdom. Question: How does mortal man have access to Heaven especially in light of the following Scripture:

    1 Corinthian 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

    1 Timothy 6:15-16

    15. Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
    16.Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
     
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    The Triune God has a Triune Kingdom.
    One limits God to one Kingdom; one limits
    one's hope.
     
  12. Mel Miller

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    Old Regular,

    You seem to wonder how God is able to provide
    eternal life on earth for a distinct group of
    nations who will be separated from the "goat
    nations" at the end of the Millennium.

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    "Mortal Man supposedly dwell in the supposed earthly millennial kingdom. Question: How does mortal man have access to Heaven especially in light of the following Scripture:

    1 Cor.15:50
    "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption".
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    The sheep nations "inherit a literal (not just a "supposed") kingdom upon the New Earth after
    the goat nations are separated from the sheep.

    Must we limit God's plan to our understanding?
    The plan clearly distinguishes between nations
    that meet the criteria to eternally inherit an
    earthly kingdom and the nations who fail; even
    though goats are astonished at being rejected!

    Both the sheep and the goat nations must "eat
    of the leaves of the tree of life" during the entire Millennial period or be deprived of rain
    for their crops and some will die.

    Since they will continue to bear children and
    death still exists, they must come to worship
    in Jerusalem annually for the sacrifices and to
    observe the Feast of Tabernacles when Jerusalem
    becomes a "praise in the earth. The nation that
    does not serve Israel will perish; but Israel will possess the land forever". Ezek.47:12;
    Zech.14:16-21; Isa.59:21; 60:12,16,21; 62:7; 65:20,23; 66:23.

    Sin and death no longer affect the nations that
    "inherit the eternal kingdom on earth" during the eternal state of those who dwell on earth.
    But they still must "enter the New Jerusalem
    at any time to be healed of the leaves of the
    tree of life". Rev.21:24-26; Rev.22:2,14.
    Mel www.lastday.net
     
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    Zec 8:22 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD.

    23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

    The "physical surviving" Jews will be a "Blessed people" during the MK, but for those "Saved", "IN CHRIST", there is no Jews, Greek. (Gentile Church)
     
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    Chad has not posted again. I hope that we did not run him off! Let's all pray that God will bless him and his family! [​IMG]

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  15. Mel Miller

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    Chad,

    Your questions remains:
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    "Pertaining to the role of saved Jews versus church age Christians in the Millenial Kingdom, will Jewish believers constitute a more blessed class"?
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    While the Jews who will be saved when Messiah
    appears may not share the glory awaiting the
    Bride of Christ, they will be the channel of
    blessing to millions which the Church could
    not reach.

    Think of the possibility of a third of the
    descendants of Isaac becoming witnesses to
    a third of the descendants of Ishmael. The
    ratio could be 100 Muslims to every Jew.

    Me4Him has given you the Scripture where the
    ratio will be 10 to One. So, whether it is
    5 million Jews to 500 million Arabs or just
    5 million Jews to 50 million Arabs, think of
    the potential of trillions of the final
    "offspring" of Abraham blessing others and
    being blessed during the Millennium ... with
    the prospect of countless numbers "inheriting
    the eternal kingdom promised to them from
    the foundation of the world"!! Matt.25:32-34.

    Endtime Martyrs will "serve God in heaven for
    1000 years" while Saints who endure to the end
    will "reign with Christ over these *nations*
    on the earth"! Overcomers will "sit on thrones
    in heaven OR on the earth at the same time!!!

    Mel www.lastday.net
     
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    Craigbythesea: //Chad has not posted again. I hope that we did not run him off!
    Let's all pray that God will bless him and his family!//

    Amen, Brother Craigbythesea -- I'm so praying.

    On third reading, i recall a list of comparative eschatologies
    with a table of variations. It was in a 'Holman Bible Dictionary'
    or a similiar book.
     

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