Eph. 3:10-12

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  1. Helen

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    I don't want to get involved down in 'other religions' with the Catholics, but I thought these verses rather soundly denied some of what Catholicism teaches and that it might be wise for us to consider them:

    His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, according to his eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord. In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence.

    A few points to consider, especially in relation to Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox...

    1. The purpose of the church is to be a witness to those we cannot see; it is not the purpose of the church to attempt to take any authority here on earth. (Cross referencing to verses such as Eph. 4:11-13, we can see how this is to be done)

    2. His eternal purpose has been accomplishED. Past tense. Completed. The church is a witness to this work, but does not contribute to it.

    3. Because of Jesus we can approach God with confidence and freedom -- directly to Him, do not pass saints and do not collect any indulgences (apologies to Monopoly...). Because of Jesus we have direct and unimpeded (even by our sins, which stand forgiven because of Jesus), access to God the Father. We do not need any intermediaries.

    At least, that is what it says in Ephesians.
     
  2. massdak

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    why wouldnt you want to share that verse and this post with the catholics? it is an excellant post for them
     
  3. Helen

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    Feel free. I don't have the time to get embroiled with Carson and Galatian etc. I have spent hours responding to them before and so right now my goal is simply to build up the body of Christ. If you have the time, great!
     
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    i do not post much in the other forum, i tend to have a difficult enough time from refraining from arguing with liberal religionists. i try to post more for sound discussion.
     
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    I totally understand. I think a lot of others here do, too.
     
  6. Watchman

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    Catholics have been taught that, "This is the truth, trust us." For hearing this stuff and following them, they demonstrate that they are not The Lord's sheep: John Chapter 10. Also, may I add a little criticism here: how in the world does a Catholic apologeticist get nominated for the Baptist Board member of the year?
    Just asking.
     
  7. HankD

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    Amen Helen.

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    HankD (Former Catholic)
     

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