ESV Compared with The NASBU

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  1. Rippon

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    These two are very much alike. I have mentioned that that the NASBU has had some difficult encounters with the English language. It certainly does. However, the NASBU has the edge over the ESV in that department.

    Some snippets will follow from the book of Acts. E=ESV;N=NASBU.

    2:14
    E : lifted up his voice ... give ear to my words
    N : raised his voice ... give heed to my words

    3:17
    E : as did also your rulers
    N : just as your rulers did also

    4:1
    E : came upon them
    N : came up to them

    6:3
    E : good repute
    N : good reputation

    6:12
    E : they came upon him and seized him
    N : they came up to him and dragged him away

    7:3
    E : go out from your land and from your kindred
    N : Leave your country and your relatives

    7:25
    E : God was giving them salvation by his hand
    N : God was granting them deliverance through him

    7:26
    E : Why do you wrong each other?
    N : Why do you injure one another?

    7:27
    E : thrust him aside
    N : pushed him away
     
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    ESV/NASBU Continuing In Acts

    7:31
    E : as he drew near to look
    N : as he approached to look

    13:28
    E : they found in him no guilt worthy of death
    N : they found no ground for putting him to death

    14:28
    E : they remained no little time
    N : they spent a long time

    15:2
    E : no small dissension
    N : great dissension

    19:16
    E : mastered all of them
    N : subdued all of them

    19:25
    E : from this business we have our wealth
    N : our prosperity depends upon this business

    20:12
    E : were not a little comforted
    N : were greatly confused

    21:4
    E : And having sought out the disciples
    N : After looking up the disciples

    21:5
    E : we departed
    N : we left
     
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    ESV/NASBU Completing Acts

    22:6
    E : drew near to Damascus
    N : approaching Damascus

    27:14
    E : a tempestuous wind
    N : a violent wind

    27:22
    E : take heart
    N : keep up your courage

    28:18
    E : they wished to set me at liberty
    N : they were willing to release me

    28:19
    E : I was compelled
    N : I was forced
     
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    Joel Chapter 2

    v.2
    ESV : their like has never been before
    NASBU : There has never been anything like it

    v.6
    ESV : peoples are in anguish
    NASBU : the people are in anguish

    v.8
    ESV : are not halted
    NASBU : They do not break ranks.

    v.17
    ESV : make not your heritage a reproach
    NASBU : do not make Your inheritance a reproach

    v.21
    ESV : Fear not
    NASBU : Do not fear

    v.26
    ESV : You shall eat in plenty
    NASBU : You will have plenty to eat

    v.27
    ESV : there is none else
    NASBU : there is no other

    v.28
    ESV : on all flesh
    NASBU : on all mankind
     
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    Jonah

    Chapter 1

    v.5
    E : the mariners
    N : the sailors

    v.6
    E : What do you mean, you sleeper? Arise
    N : How is it that you are sleeping? Get up

    v.8
    E : this evil has come upon us
    N : this calamity struck us

    v.11
    E : the sea grew more and more tempestuous
    N : the sea was becoming increasingly stormy

    v.14
    E : let us not perish for this man's life,and lay not on us innocent blood
    N : do not let us perish on account of this man's life and do not put innocent blood on us

    Chapter 4

    v.9
    E : Do you do well to be angry for the plant?
    N : Do you have good reason to be angry about the plant?

    v.11
    E : and also much cattle
    N : as well as many animals
     
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    Micah

    3:12
    E : the mountain of the house a wooded height
    N : the mountain of the temple will become high places of a forest

    7:8
    E : Rejoice not over me
    N : Do not rejoice over me

    Nahum

    1:14
    E : The Lord has given commandment about you
    N : The Lord has issued a command concerning you

    1:15
    E : never again shall the worthless pass through you;he is utterly cut off
    N : never again will the wicked one pass through you;He is cut off completely.

    2:1
    E : the scatterer has come up against you
    N : The one who scatters has come up against you

    2:8
    E : none turns back
    N : no one turns back

    2:11
    E : with none to disturb
    N : With nothing to disturb them

    3:4
    E : peoples with her charms
    N : families by her sorceries
     
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    Habakkuk

    1:6
    E : hasty nation
    N : impetuous people

    1:13
    E : the wicked swallows up the man more righteous than he
    N : the wicked swallow up Those more righteous than they

    2:3
    E : it hastens to the end --it will not lie
    N : It hastens toward the goal and it will not fail.

    2:6
    E : with scoffing and riddles for him
    N : Even mockery and insinuations against him

    2:6
    E : loads himself with pledges
    N : makes himself rich with loans

    2:7
    E : your debtors
    N : your creditors
    [It looks like the ESV messed up here.It has to be creditors according to the context.]

    v.8
    E : for the blood of man
    N: Because of human bloodshed

    3:13
    E : You went out for the salvation of your people
    N : You went forth for the salvation of your people
     
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    The ESV Is Lacking

    Zephaniah

    1:14
    E: the mighty man
    N : the warrior

    2:11
    E : The Lord will be awesome against them;for he will famish all the gods of the earth
    N : The Lord will be terrifying to them,for He will starve all the gods of the earth
    [The word awesome has been overused these days to describe even trivial things as great.The GW translation says "The Lord will terrify them."Also,"he will famish..." is just plain inadequate English]

    3:4
    E : fickle
    N : reckless

    3:16
    E : let not your hands grow weak
    N : Do not let your hands fall limp.

    Haggai

    2:1
    E : In the seventh month,on the twenty-first day of the month
    N : On the twenty-first day of the seventh month

    2:19
    E : Is the seed yet in the barn?
    N : Is the seed still in the barn?

    2:22
    E : every one by the sword of his brother
    N : everyone by the sword of another
     
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    It's simply not accurate to say the NASB is more clear in all places as you state. I have shown from 1 Peter 1 just a few where the ESV has better renderings.
     
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    I have never made such a claim. Did you read the OP?
     
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    I'm so glad Rippon knows how to select text and use CNTL-C and CNTL-V. I wonder how many people get tired of these endless verse by verse comparisons. :laugh: :sleep:
     
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    Yes. It's the same one you have about the ESV on every thread :laugh:
     
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    Again,Tom, I have never said such a thing.Why the false charge?
     
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    Tom,this OP certainly doesn't look at all like the OP's I have had before regarding the ESV.Why you are saying such false things is puzzling.
     
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    NASBU? What's the U?
     
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    U stands for "Update"
     
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    Relax, Rippon. I'm jousting and jesting. Your hatred of the ESV and it's major proponents has been well established. I just like rattling your cage on it from time to time ;)
     
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    There is a current thread dealing with Bible translations. The subject came up regarding the readability factor as it pertains to the ESV and NASB(U). This old thread of mine illustrates that there are a number of places in which the latter has better renderings than the former. By "better" I mean the English of the NASB(U) is plainer than that of the ESV. The English usage of the ESV should never become the standard.
     
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    I have zero issue with the ESV language. I also like the NIV and NASB. Don't see what all the anti-ESV fuss is about.

    You are getting worse than those NIV11 haters :)

    Kidding with you brother Rippon
     
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    When you say you are just kidding...does that apply to your sentence with the smiley-face alone? Or does it also apply to sentence #3?
     

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