Eternal Earth-Bound Pets

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  1. Deacon

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    Eternal Earth-Bound Pets, USA
    The next best thing to pet salvation in a Post Rapture World


    "You've committed your life to Jesus. You know you're saved. But when the Rapture comes what's to become of your loving pets who are left behind?
    Eternal Earth-Bound Pets takes that burden off your mind.

    We are a group of dedicated animal lovers, and atheists.
    Each Eternal Earth-Bound Pet representative is a confirmed atheist, and as such will still be here on Earth after you've received your reward.
    Our network of animal activists are committed to step in when you step up to Jesus.

    We are currently active in 22 states. Our representatives have been screened to ensure that they are atheists, animal lovers, are moral / ethical with no criminal background, have the ability and desire to rescue your pet and the means to retrieve them and ensure their care for your pet's natural life.

    Our service is plain and simple; our fee structure is reasonable.
    For $110.00 we will guarantee that should the Rapture occur within ten (10) years of receipt of payment, one pet per residence will be saved. Each additional pet at your residence will be saved for an additional $15.00 fee.
    A small price to pay for your peace of mind and the health and safety of your four legged and feathered friends."

    Soooo.... what do ya think???

    Rob
     
  2. Johnv

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    I think they're lookng to make a quick buck.
     
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    Actually, there was another thread on this a few weeks ago, maybe in the news forum.
     
  4. pinoybaptist

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    I got three pet parakeets whom I love very much.
    They don't have souls, unfortunately.
    So the atheists, who don't believe they have souls, too, can keep them, for free.
    At least when judgment day comes around the corner, my pets will not be in hell, they will, to their surprise, and pain.
     
  5. HankD

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    I have a chihuahua (which we inherited from a daughter who couldn't keep her in her new apt.) This chihuahua is convinced she is human.
    In fact she thinks we are the pets.

    HankD
     
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    If the premillennialists are correct, then I'm staying with my pets.

    I'll catch up with the premillennialists later. :)
     
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    LOL, HankD!

    The idea of rapture insurance for your pets makes me laugh. :laugh: But then the more I think about it, the more I realize that the ASPCA will most likely be much more concerned about these poor pets that are all alone than with the WHY of it.
     
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    They can have my dog, but she isn't worth $110.00
     
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    As an atheist, on what basis do you declare yourself moral?
     
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    Maybe the pets of the saved will be raptured as well?? Trying to spice up the thread a little bit. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Sounds like something from The Lark
     
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    Since the rapture is a myth, my pets are going with us.

    Cheers,

    Snoop, Coco, Buddy and Shadow
     
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    Erm.... Huh?
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  14. HankD

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    Hi Jim,

    What is your take on this passage?

    1 Thessalonians 4
    13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
    15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.​

    The "caught up" of verse 17 is harpazo in the Grk. and
    rapiemur (a form of raptum) in the Vulgate from whence we get "rapture".

    This word is also used by Paul in:

    2 Corinthians 12:2 I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth, such an one caught up to the third heaven.​

    Same word harpazo (Grk) and raptum (Latin).​

    Is it the additional dispensational teaching around this being "caught up" in the air to be with the Lord (1 Thess 4:17) or do you believe this passage means something other than being caught up bodily to meet the Lord in the air when He comes?​

    Thanks
    HankD​
     
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    And if I say amillienism is a myth, I wonder how many virtual hammers would strike my head?
     
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    it is hard to say amillenialism is a myth because it is nothing to start with.
     
  17. Jim1999

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    Rapture is an essential aspect of dispensationalism. The verse in question speaks of the 2nd coming.period.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Whether it is pre-tribulation or later it is still a rapture. There is no room for difference on that.
     
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    OK thanks. I wasn't sure if you knew why the word "rapture" (Latin raptum, rapimieur) and its derivation or what passage of Scripture it comes from. Obviously it has a history from catholicism (Jesuits).

    I'm wondering if you agree that the passage means we will actually be caught up (snatched away) into the atmosphere to the clouds (actual or clouds of saints) when the Lord returns bodily to the earth.

    No need to answer if you don't want to do so. This is not a confrontational question, I'm very interested in what all Christians believe about the Second Coming.

    Thanks
    Hank
     
  20. Jim1999

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    Hank, I don't mind saying. I believe the scripture teaches that Jesus will return to earth in power and in glory. He will indeed return with the saints. Those of us remaining on earth will be gathered to meet Him in the clouds and as a group He will judge the world. I am sure there are details we are not told about and we can only speculate about them.

    Jesus is reigning right now at the right hand of the Father. Satan is scripturally bound. This binding does not mean chained to a post so he cannot move. If Satan were not bound we would not see souls coming to Christ as we do. The church would be restricted more than it is now.

    A very good book speaking on all four concepts and by leading proponents of each viewpoint is an InterVarsity Press book titled: The Meaning of the Millennium, edited by Robert Clouse. It was first published in 1977, but I think it is still available.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     

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