Eternal Earth-Bound Pets

We have parakeets also. They are something else to watch.

 

Amen. :thumbs:

 

Amen again. :thumbs:

 

It's sad to see a thread purportedly as one thing actually being something else, and it's sad to see the tireless "attack the dispensationalists" warriors infiltrating this forum. Isn't one forum (Baptist Theology) enough for them?

 

Scripture says Satan will not deceive the nations at all. Period Satan will be put in hell while bound. This passage gives no room for any interpretation that suggest he is bound simply by scripture.

 

Thanks Jim

HankD

 

I have 2 bloodhound pups, if they can feed em they can have em. 5 mo. old 60 lbs. but you better keep them away from the parakeets.:tongue3:

 

So are you advocating muzzling those who don't agree with the false teaching of dispensationalism?

 

I bet you cannot defend that yourself.

 

I did so long, long before you joined the BB. In fact the first post I think I ever made way back in 2002 on this board was on this subject.

Regardless, that was not what my question to Marcia was about.

 

Where in my statement do I say or imply that?

It seems the anti-dispensationalists have nothing else to discuss; I find that sad.

 

If you have Calvinist cats, do they have to be regenerated for each of their nine lives? What about if they get caught up in the rapture, do they leave behind the litter boxes?

 

I don't care who you are, that was funny!

 

This thread has probably run it's course.

The "rapture" (mentioned in the O/P) is a biblical concept apart from dispensationalism which I tried to show.

I hope all of us think about 1 Thessalonians 4

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up (Gk root: harpazo) together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Again, the word "rapture" comes from the Latin Vulgate translation of the word harpazo in the Greek (Latin:raptum, rapiemur - future 1st pers pl.).

Perhaps the word "rapture" was/is a poor choice having been derived from the Vulgate.

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

HankD​

 

Getting back to the OP. I think I will contact this group and let them know that the cash will be in the coffee can in back of the cabinet and they are welcome to it and the pets when the rapture occurs. (and indeed it shall)

 

None of us knows definitively about our pets and heaven. We do read about the lamb lying down with the lion. For those who can imagine a fabulous "rapture" apart from the coming of Christ...a secret one at that, and the underlying chaos the world would be in, followed by 7 years of chaos, followed by a third advent of Christ.....I don't know about this theology, except anything is imaginable.

Cheers,

Jim

 

Hi Jim,

Here I am in disagreement with traditional dispensationalism (if there be such a thing).

Here is my view:

It will only be a secret in the sense of the following Scriptures:

Matthew 24​

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,​

39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17

24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.​

There are three things which appear to be happening here.​

1) The world will be going on "business as usual" will little or no care for God's requirements. ​

2) A select few will escape.​

3) Luke 17:30 Christ and the wrath of God will be revealed after the removal of the elect (as it was in Noah's day, as it was in Lot's day).​

This is demonstrated in the following passage:

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.​

After the removal of the elect and the "sign" of His coming (whatever it is) appears, there will be no more doubt in anyone's mind (Jew or Gentile) what is going on.

The secret of Christs' second coming is a secret only because it is a kind of "urban legend" to this world.

Just as Noah warned his generation and no one repented, just as Lot testified to his in-laws and was mocked, so we as Christians have invited others to accept Christ and warned the world of the wrath to come...

It will not be a secret coming. Yes, we will be removed or displaced just as Noah and family, Lot and family:
The tribulation to follow (for however long it endures) will be part of the second coming, there will be no third coming.

Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,​

HankD

 

Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.