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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Jedi Knight, Jan 11, 2011.
Do you believe in the Eternal Security of "TRUE" believers?
Those believers that God has elected, regenerated, justified, and adopted will not be taken from His hand.
Those religious persons who, on their own strength, believed that there is a God who sent a Son named Jesus, but who have not been born again from above and possessed by the Holy Spirit may indeed leave their faith behind. Of course, they never truly had salvation in the first place. Poor folks... they only had religion and human power, which does not save.
Eternal life is exactly that!
I think John 3:16 sums this up pretty well. Everlasting Life...or as the NASB and HCSB among other versions put it eternal life
It is immaterial unless one is planning on sinning. If one is planning on sinning then one might worry about losing salvation. But how can a person who is planning to sin be saved in the first place?
Love God, be a good neighbor, don't worry about things that are out of your control.
My GOODNESS, of course I do.
The thought that a blood bought, redeemed, born again child of God can somehow get "lost" again is.....unthinkable. Its unimaginable.
Nope. Not a chance. No possibility of that whatsoever. Even if they not only plan on it...they do it.
Experience some chastisement in this life?...yes.
Lose some "reawards" in the next life?...probably.
But their is no loss of salvation. The scriptures are clear that NO child of God will, or can, lose their eternal standing of being "In Christ".
Praise the Lord!
Every time a person sins it is planned and premeditated. Sin is a process. We do it willfully. Every time. Including you.
No one sins accidentally.
If your theory were true, no one would make it.
Loving God and being a good neighbor doesn't save you. Do you treat your neighbors better than you do folks on here? And aren't folks on here also your "neighbors?"
I suppose with that in mind being a "good" neighbor is totally subjective isn't it?
6-0 ? Wow nice! :applause:
Exactly. What defines a good neighbor anyways? Keeping your grass green, throwing your hand up when you get the mail? Or is it deeper then that?
Remember that some choices we make are irreversible.
One may, for example, drive his automobile off a mountain. If he does that, he dies -- it's irreversible.
1 Cor 9 "I buffet my body and make it my slave LEST after preaching the Gospel to others I myself should be disqualified".
Rom 11 "You stand only by your faith... you should fear for if He did not spare them neither will he spare you".
What is the "form" in which these warnings are framed? Is it in a "Less toys in heaven" form?
Bob's quote in 1 Corinthians 9 is in the context of REWARDS and even uses the word "prize"
Bob's quote in Romans 11 has nothing to do with personal salvation at all by context, but refers to Gentiles as a PEOPLE in contrast to JEWS as a people as those previously "cut off" are what are "grafted back in again" (not lost and then saved as they NEVER WERE SAVED but cut off due to rejection of Christ in the first place). Therefore if those that are "grafted in AGAIN" were never formerly saved then those threated to be cut off among the Gentiles were never formerly saved either! That which will be grafted in "AGAIN" is the nation of Israel, which NEVER received Chrsit as a whole but rejected Christ as Messiah. That which will be cut off will be Gentiles for rejecting Christ just as Israel was cut off for rejecting Christ. NEITHER HAVE TO DO WITH INDIVIDUAL SALVATION AS NONE THAT ARE BEING CUT OFF WERE EVER BELIEVERS.
John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. :sleeping_2: