Agape Press link snippet: It is unfortunate, says the IRD spokesman, that some high-profile leaders like mega-church pastor Rick Warren and Ted Haggard of the National Association of Evangelicals have signed on to the document. Here's a thought. Because some of us don't want to live in Saudi Arabia, China or North Korea. And because most expect more from America than we expect from a totalitarian dictatorship and male dominated whacked out religious states. Torture and humiliation is not approved by Jesus one bit! this country the only super power should lead by example and not get into the pigsty like others.