Even the wicked for the day of evil !

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  1. savedbymercy

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    We refuse to agree with the false premise that God Loves all men without exception or that Christ died in order to save the same, scripture is plain that God made the Wicked, the vessels of wrath for the Day of Evil Prov 16:4

    4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

    From day one of his natural existence, he is being kept for the evil day ! Job 21:30

    That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth or led forth to the day of wrath.

    Also these same were hated by God before they were born Rom 9:11-13

    11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth )

    12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

    13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

    Before of old God ordained them to condemnation Jude 1:4

    4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

    There whole life given to them of God is only to fit them as they fit themselves for destruction Rom 9:22

    22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: See Job 21:30 !

    These were made or born to be taken and destroyed 2 Pet 2:12

    12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made or born to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

    They are by the Divine Purpose those appointed to wrath 1 Thess 5:9

    9 For God hath not appointed[or predestinated us] us to wrath[as others], but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, For reprobation is God's Eternal Purpose of rejection as His Eternal Purpose of Election to Salvation !
     
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    The world Christ did not Pray for is doomed !

    Did you know that there is a world that Christ did not and does not pray for or intercedes for ? Jn 17:9

    9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

    This world that Jesus does not pray for, is the world that He did not died for, like the world of the ungodly here 2 Pet 2:5

    And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

    This world will be condemned in the Day of Judgment 1 Cor 11:32

    32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

    That is the world Christ did not die for, the world of the reprobates !
     
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    what did you do to avoid being a reprobate yourself?
     
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    What percentage of the world population might BB members agree are "real" Christians? As many as 10%? 20%?

    If God created 80% of the world's population for the purpose of sending them to Hell and God created 20% of the world's population for the purpose of sending them to Heaven, then what might we conclude about God's intention and/or his ability to create a desired product?
     
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    > As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

    What does that have to do with you and I? I am not Jacob or Esau. I have a grandfather named "Jacob." Does that count?
     
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    We Know that we missed up, we ALL deserve to be seperated from God /hell forever, and that more will be saved Gods way than IF we even tried to do it "our way!"
     
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    That Christ did not come to save all people without exception, but in fact, He came also for the purpose that many should fall, the opposite of of His Purpose that many should rise, this purpose is even seen within the nation of Israel Lk 2:34

    34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set [appointed or destined] for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

    The word again is not in the original ! So it could read, He is set or appointed or destined for the fall and rising up of many in Israel, speaking of National Israel here. Now Peter seems to confirm this understanding here 1 Pet 2:8

    7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

    8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

    This appointed disobedience is what Lk 2:34 calls He was set for their fall !

    This is also indicated in Jesus words here Jn 9:39

    39 And Jesus said, For judgment [ to fulfill the purpose and decree of God] I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

    Now what can be more plainer than this, that Christ's appointed coming into the World was not for the Spiritual Interest of all mankind without exception, but in fact, to further many on to eternal damnation and perdition Matt 23:32-33

    32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

    33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

    That is the Judgment or appointment of God Jn 9:39

    39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

    The Judgment was set !
     
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    The Reprobate are these !



    The Reprobate are all those of the none elect, whom God did not choose in Christ before the foundation and accepted then in Him for the praise of the Glory of His Grace Eph 1:4-6. All such are dogs and swine. Jesus says of them here Matt 7:6

    Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

    Peter writes this 2 Pet 2:22

    22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

    We are fools to believe that such people belong to these that Paul writes this of Eph 5:25-26

    25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

    26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

    Back to the dogs, John writes Rev 22:15

    14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


    These dogs are excluded from the heavenly Kingdom, that which was prepared for God's Sheep and Elect Matt 25:34

    34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    God says through Paul about dogs Phil 3:2

    2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

    This beware comes from Jesus Himself Matt 7:15

    15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


    Those called brute beast, made only to be as beasts and taken to be destroyed 2 Pet 2:12

    12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

    That word made is the greek word gennaƍ and means:


    of men who fathered children

    a) to be born

    b) to be begotten

    So God is telling us that these men and women were born into this world to be taken and destroyed, BTW they are the same ones that this is written of 2 Pet 2:22

    22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.


    None of these ever had a chance for Salvation, not ever, their whole purpose for living was to be vessels of wrath being fitted for destruction Rom 9:22

    22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
     
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    Does every prayer of Jesus for the same purpose and does it have the same content? If not, then one prayer does not define a theology.

    By the way, if a dog enters an Orthodox church building the building must be re-dedicated. They they take the "dog" reference as literally as does Savedby.
     

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