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Discussion in 'Pastoral Ministries' started by Tom Bryant, Jul 25, 2007.
:laugh: Oh man, I bet every child that pastor baptizes from now on gets a long lecture about proper behavior during baptism! And cannonballs are not acceptable!:laugh:
That was too funny!!!!!
Question is now, what has been the most unique thing to happen to you for a baptism?
I almost dropped a guy!
That made my day.
Had I pulled this stunt, this point would have been emphatically delivered upon arrival at home. :laugh:
Yeah, my parents called it "applying the board of education to the seat of learning!"
Mines called it an old fashion butt whooping but I think we got the same education?
You mean it wasn't an accident? The lad didn't slp on the wet floor and end up in the baptistry for a second time? If so, I wonder what he thought the occasion was? Did he not know that he was publicly declaring that as a sinner, he was relying on the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross at Calvary for salvation? I have a sense of humour (honest!) but I did not find that funny at all.
Before watching the clip, I had imagined it might have been something like my baptism. I am 6 feet 5 inches tall, and when I was baptised, the pastor, anxious that he should not injure me or himself, got me to kneel down in the water, and he plunged me forward.
When I first watched the clip it was funny, but when I thought about what was supposed to happen it wasn't funny at all. Either the Pastor didn't do his job in explaining what the Baptisim was all about, or the boy had not really accepted Jesus as his Savior. It is very obvious that the boy did not understand why he was being baptized. In either case it is really a sad moment, not a funny one.
...and (in my opinion) certainly not one to be paraded to all and sundry on U-Tube. Incidentally, who were the people whooping and applauding immediately after the baptism, I wonder? More important, perhaps, who did the boy think the whoops and cheers where for? By his demeanour after his bad behaviour, he certainly seemed to imagine that he, not the Saviour, was the centre of attention. I don't want to be too hard on the youngster though - if the church members thought it right to laugh at his escapades, as though it were one of those "outake" programmes on television, perhaps it is small wonder that he behaved as he did.
Our people clap and cheer after every baptism also. It doesn't minimize the meaning of baptism. It is a joyous occasion of obedience to the commands and example of Christ. We celebrate it because we believe a big step of obedience ought to be apprciated. We also applaud because it means that we as a church are doing a part of our job as a church - reaching people with the Gospel and watching them take a step of obedience.
If you listened to the pastor after it happened. He stated that it was the first time it had ever happened "and the last" I don't know about you all, but I have never told anyone I am preparing for baptism to not do a cannon ball. It had just never come up.
I can remember Dr, Hyles telling about a little boy swimming in their baptistry during a service.
I clap after every baptism myself because it is truely a joyous occasion. Yes the pastor in the clip did make those statements. You will notice in my reply that I used an either or statement, I am not saying the Pastor didn't take his responsibility seriously I am only saying it is possible he didn't explain the meaning of the baptism as well as he might have. In the end if the boy was properly taught what baptism was all about then he simply didn't understand or care. Because if he understood that the baptism was to show his obedience to Jesus, and that his immersion symbolized the death, burial and resurrection of his Savior then he would not have done the cannonball. If he didn't care then I have a hard time believing he is saved, because his first fruits certainly don't show it.
This is why I would be VERY cautious about baptizing little kids. They are kids, and I don't think they can truly grasp the concept of baptism. Apostle Paul wrote that while he was a child, he thought as child, did things of a child, spake as a child. But when he became a man, he put away childish things. Anyone of us, as little kids, could confess Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and believe that Jesus died for us. But, did this come from our heart or mind? Herein lies the question.......
I'm sorry, but I think you must have misunderstood what I wrote. I was wondering who they were clapping, not why, or whether it was right or not. (However, perhaps you partly answered that by saying, "We also applaud because it means that we as a church are doing a part of our job"; did you really mean that the members of your church applaud themselves?)
I'm not trying to be flippant when I say that I would be suprised if the pastor had ever told anyone preparing for baptism not to pick their nose, eat cream cakes, tell jokes, make rude noises, and so on, during the service. It should not be necessary (even if it were possible) to list all the potential "inappropriate behaviours" if the candidate is given an understanding of what baptism really means.
I don't know Dr. Hyles (perhaps he is well-known where you are), but was he commending the little boy's swimming? Also, you don't say whether Dr. Hyles in dicated that the swimmer was the baptismal candidate. Anyway, the fact that someone told a story about such an action doesn't make that action right.
=Funny video but I think the microphone, which is plugged in and not wireless, looks to be too close to the water (notice that it did get wet). No plugged in microphone should be anywhere near water. Either use no microphone at all or use cordless. This will avoid injury and even death.
Yet another reason they should be grateful that God spared them.
University Baptist Church in Waco TX--their founding pastor was electrocuted in the baptistry. Right you are.