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  1. Daniel David

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    Name calling ends now. I do not have time to read posts only to see them develop into highly organized name-calling dialogues.

    We are adults.

    Those who advocate the modern version cannot use names that KJVO people would object to.

    Likewise, KJVO people cannot use the terms: bible correctors/doubters/changers/etc.

    Name calling ALWAYS turns meaningful discussion into stupidity. No mas.

    Posts that have name-calling in them will be deleted. If you like what you have to say, use discernment.

    An acceptable way of classifying people would be:

    People of ______ persuasion tend to be _______.

    Feel free to notify me of offenses. If they continue, I will have to issue warnings followed by suspensions.

    Have a nice day.
     
  2. Pastor_Bob

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    Since you gave examples of names "KJVO people" cannot use, how about these names we would like restricted from "those who advocate modern versions."
    Heretic/Cultish/Infidels/fanatics/Ruckmanites/etc...
     
  3. Baptist Believer

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    Amen Preach!

    If only this attitude would overtake the entire Baptist Board!

    [ December 30, 2002, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: Baptist Believer ]
     
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    Since you gave examples of names "KJVO people" cannot use, how about these names we would like restricted from "those who advocate modern versions."
    Heretic/Cultish/Infidels/fanatics/Ruckmanites/etc...
    </font>[/QUOTE]PTW, I agree with Pastor Bob.
     
  5. Daniel David

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    Pastor Bob and Homebound, that is fine. Awhile ago, I did a poll to see what kind of names KJVO people objected to.

    Keep in mind, the entire post will be deleted not just the offending word/words.
     
  6. Steve K.

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    I am with pastor Bob! Also there are a couple guys here who call KJ guys willfull liars and deceived or name names of people in a negative manner who are not involved in the discussion. I asked a moderator how to address it (Jim) and was ignored. This after a private message from him telling me not to do it.When I would give sources of info,documented sources they would be called lies and nothing was said. These guys continue to use the same language and seem to go unchecked.Let's use the same standard for all.
     
  7. Daniel David

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    As this has only become an issue again now, it is being addressed again.

    It is totally acceptable to say that Ruckman is off base. Likewise, if someone wants to say that Westcott was off base, that is fine. Name calling cannot be toward another.

    A good solution is if people did not try to veil their name calling in a round-about way.

    I will be as consistent as possible. If you feel something is violated, let me know.
     
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    Agreed!
     
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    Since you gave examples of names "KJVO people" cannot use, how about these names we would like restricted from "those who advocate modern versions."
    Heretic/Cultish/Infidels/fanatics/Ruckmanites/etc..

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    </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, that does seem only fair.

    AJL
     
  10. Pastor Larry

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    We should point out that calling someone a liar, if it is true, is not a name. It is a description of reality. When documented sources are shown to lying, it is a disservice to the truth to fail to point that out. Let's not ignore truth.

    There is a distinction between labels and names. Ruckmanite is a label. KJVOnlyite is a label. Both serve very good purposes. Let's use some common sense here.
     
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    Pointing out the truth as you see it is ok (IMO). Exposing false doctrine is ok. But calling someone a liar, when in reality, all they are is possibly misguided (on either side of the issue) serves no purpose but to fan the flames of anger and cause problems (especially in this forum). Just a suggestion and something to think about.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
  12. Scott J

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    I agree with Pastor Larry. Why can't we allow the proof of truthfulness to be the deciding factor?

    If someone can actually present facts showing Pastor Larry to be a Bible correcter and a member of an Alexandrian cult then why shouldn't these terms be allowed?

    On the other hand, if someone can be shown to follow the teachings of Ruckman, depart from orthodoxy, or assign exclusive inspiration to the KJV, why shouldn't they be described accordingly?
     
  13. kman

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    Don't forget bible rummager.
    I think somebody called him that once...I'm still
    trying to figure out what it means... [​IMG]

    [ December 30, 2002, 07:22 PM: Message edited by: kman ]
     
  14. Refreshed

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    Bible corrector (sorry PTW) is also a label. Not wanting to turn this into a huge overblown argument, do you, Pastor Larry, not believe that there were some areas of the KJV that have been appropriately corrected? If the answer is yes, and nobody disagrees with the fact that the KJV is the bible, then you are by default a "bible corrector." Remember, it's not a name, it's a label.

    I would not use that, however, as it would not add substantially to an argument, and I think you would agree that "Ruckmanite," or "KJVonlyite" are only intended to be inflammatory as is "bible corrector."

    I just want to know where the line is.
     
  15. Abiyah

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    What I don't understand is why adults, who call
    themselves "believers" or "Christians" cannot have
    a civil conversation without dipping into the murky,
    foaming kettle of deliberate disrespect?

    Now, I admit that I have deliberately done this my-
    self three times on this board (and perhaps some
    who misread my intentions think more), but when
    it happens, I know it is time to back off and reeval-
    uate why I am here. I see others here doing the
    same. This is ordinary behavior.

    And yes, there are admittedly some here who do
    not like me! (Can you fathom that?!?!?) They do
    the right thing and simply ignore or avoid me.
    That is the adult thing to do, no matter how some
    may find it distasteful. I admit that there is one
    person I avoid here also, but it is becausee I have
    an attitude toward him; I recognize this, so we
    stay off the same threads.

    P.S. What is wrong with being a "Bible corrector"?
    I do it all the time! Am I evil?
     
  16. Author

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    That sounds like a compliment to me [​IMG] . I've always been a rummager myself; of Bibles, of encyclopedias, of dictionaries, of any good reference work. When I do not have something specific to look up, I open the Bible at random and start reading. You find wondrous things that way--often something you were not expecting at all.

    Yes, please call me a Bible rummager as well. I'll wear the title proudly! ;)

    --Ralph

    [ December 30, 2002, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: Author ]
     
  17. kman

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    Ok..you are a bible rummager.
    And a bible corrector, director, and inspector!

    [​IMG]
     
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    Certainly you are NOT evil dear Abiyah! I, too, am a Bible corrector and proud of it. My publishing company produced a KJV version of the Bible for another publisher (the Bible is still being sold widely). It was based on a Scofield edition from the turn of the 20th century. We found many typos and other errors. We earned our money by correcting them. ... Typesetters being human, EVERY edition of EVERY Bible ever published has typos in it--that's just reality. ... My company is publishing an edition of the World English Bible (now in press). I HOPE there are no typos left in it but I know--no matter how long and how hard we tried--one or two may have slipped through.... But ... Not many... we likes to STOMP typos!

    So, yup, I am a professional Bible corrector and very much proud of it. And people need us--we make the reading clean for all God's children. [​IMG]

    --Ralph

    P.S. and a Bible rumager, too, as I posted earlier. ;)

    [ December 30, 2002, 09:36 PM: Message edited by: Author ]
     
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    Ok..you are a bible rummager.
    And a bible corrector, director, and inspector!

    [​IMG] [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]That I are and, when they come from the printer, a Bible unloader, unboxer, packer upper, and sender outer ... and ... well so forth. :D

    Gee.. getting called names can be fun!

    --Ralph
     
  20. Sherrie

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    Ok I don't get it. I must have really been out to sea, because I didn't know people were calling anyone names.

    Lets remember "Compassion and Love" in our post. Not those ones where someone thinks they are the walking reference book.

    We are all here to study, fellowship, share, and learn.

    Lets remember there are lurkers who visit these threads who are new Christians and some who are not Christians. Lets remember to set examples for these people so they can see Jesus shine through all of us.

    Lets remember it is ok to disagree! But while the debate is on...lets not hate.

    I Love You All
    Your Sister in Christ
    Sherrie [​IMG]
     

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