Eve's sorrow increased: from what?

Part 2

Do any of the others dare accuse, or speak so plainly to God? We have the book of Job as God granted Satan what he asked, not once but twice; and Satan was granted access to Peter. God let's us view these incidents to let us know the "power" this created being has, and also to let us know He (God) is more powerful, and the only chance we have is repenting (turn to Him) so He can seal us in, never to let us go. But we can still sin, however even those sin's have already been forgiven.

Things are much different today, but we can't forget about Satan because he is not going away. Even we in Christ cannot let our guard down for a moment. Not that we can become "unsaved", but because we can tarnish the image of Christ, when not in His will. These bodies are still sinful, and until we die we are to "fight - continue to the finish line", and spread the "grace commission".

Yes, and this is written to the Hebrew, Israel. Jesus walked this earth, saying He came for only His people. We can trace many of His footprints while on the earth. But He is now in heaven, and we are of the heavenlies. We know what is promised the "covenant people", those of the "Kingdom Church". Can we say "of course we can search out the riches you have for us Lord in your "Body Church". We know what you have in store for us. I don't think so.

We know John is speaking to the "firstborn" of God, that being Israel, those of the covenant, with promises made of the inheritance of the earth. John was one who also shook hands with Paul to not preach the "circumcised" gospel to the "uncircumcised", however we see in John 5 he now knows they also are in Christ, but still of the "Kingdom Church". But even at that we know John cannot be saying a person born of God become perfect, for in verse 21 he is telling them to keep from "idols", which is the first commandment of the Ten Commandments. Also the "Kingdom Church" is justified by faith, and the "Body Church" is justified through faith.

I believe what John is saying is what Paul says in that "our sins (all of them) are no more, so we cannot do a sin that is counted as sin to us.

I believe you are mixing the Churches here. The earthly Apostles will sit on thrones in their kingdom, we are told no such thing. The "firstborn" of God, Israel are told they will be Kings, and Priest of God, but they are not us. We are told in Galatians 4:7, "Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ". We in the "Body Church" are never told we will be "kings and Priests". Only those justified by faith will inherit the earth and become "kings and Priest".

Amen! Romans 5:17, "For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)", and II Timothy 2:12, "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:"

It is interesting to note the Apostle Paul makes a number of references to the angelic host. Today if we see any manifestation of angels, they are very few, if any. This is in agreement with the administration of this grace period, in which the heavens are quite. There is warfare, and we "wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, and rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." We see no Michael, the arch angel to Israel, appointed for we today. We are not to get carried away with angels, as do the Catholics and some churches, but we cannot loose sight of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Yes in Him is the Power and the glory.

 

Nicely put

 

Now, I admit that that is not quite the same as child birth without the pain . . . but, it is probably more fun . . . but, I wouldn't know.



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