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  1. NateT

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    The UPS man dropped off my new Greek New Testament (edited by Barbara Aland, Kurt Aland, Karavidopoulos, Martini and Metzger) It's for Greek 1 this fall (staring in 5 days).

    My wife thought I was nuts, getting excited about a Bible I can't yet read [​IMG]
     
  2. natters

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    [​IMG] [​IMG] That's great. I had a similar reaction in my house when I bought a TR from a used bookstore.

    May God bless you as you study.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

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    We extend our heartfelt
    sympathy and condolences. May God be with you.

    Thou knowest I love to praise Jesus in 17th Century talk:
    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, the Christ [​IMG]
     
  4. mioque

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    Good luck in your studies.

    Our head pastor has given up using translations in preparing his sermons a long time ago. At times he has to borrow my Bible 5 minutes before the service starts, to quickly check what the translation of the text he is going to preach about looks like in the Bible his audiance is using.
     
  5. NateT

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    My goal is to do what Dr. Bob and others on here do, translate the text myself and compare it with other well established translations. I'll be in the Biblical and Theological Studies tract here, which has a lot of greek and hebrew. I just wasn't brave enough to try both in the same semester yet. [​IMG]
     
  6. Craigbythesea

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    Nate,

    Congratulations! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  7. Dr. Bob

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    Humble yourself and be prepared for hard work. Toward the end of semester 2 of grammar you will begin (probably with passages from John) to translate.

    It is a joy that is uncomparible. And work. Then comes 2 semesters of syntax and 2 or 3 semesters of exegesis.

    BTW, everyone can have some of that same experience by paying $20 for a copy of Greek/English Interlinear NT by George Ricker-Berry. Has Greek with literal English directly below each word, with AV (not sure which revision) in margin columns. Lexicon (dictionary) and synonym as well. Best single volume investment ANYONE can make.
     
  8. jgodc

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    Good luck Nate, after you spend a few years studying greek you will realize that the translating committee for the KJB have already done the work for you. Why study the Greek when the Bible has been preserved in English (Ps 12:6-7)
     
  9. natters

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    Welcome, jgodc. [​IMG]
     
  10. Ed Edwards

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    I kinda dislike toasting a person on their first try,
    but it seems to need it:

    jgodc: "(Ps 12:6-7)"

    This citation is deceptive.
    The pronouns in verse 7 are resolved by what
    is in verse 5.

    Here is a much more honest citation: "(Ps 12:5-7)

    Jgodc: "Why study the Greek when the Bible has been preserved in English (Ps12:6-7)"

    Amen, Sibling Jgodc -- Preach it!
    Here is an example:

    Romans 10:9 (HCSB = The Holman Christian Standard Bible)
    if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord,"
    and believe in your heart that God
    raised Him from the dead, you will
    be saved.

    Notice the new method (not used in 1769) of honorning
    the Lord God with a capital "H" in the pronoun "Him".

    BTW (by the way), your verse does not prove or even suggest
    your contention. Fortuanately there are other Bible verses
    which do suggest that God will perserve both his written
    Word (Holy Scripture), His Living Word (Jesus), and His
    holy people (the Church, the Jews).

    Thou knowest I love to praise Jesus in 17th Century talk:
    [​IMG] Praise Iesus, the Sonne of God [​IMG]
     
  11. Craigbythesea

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    Spend a few hours with the Greek texts of Acts 7:35 and ponder the difference that tense makes in just one word:

    Acts 7:35 This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush.

    Acts 7:35 Τουτον τον Μωυσην ον ηρνησαντο ειποντες· τις σε κατε στησεν ρχοντα καὶ δικαστήν; τουτον ο Θεος αρχοντα και λυτρωτην απεσταλκεν εν χειρι αγγελου του οφθεντος αυτω εν τη βατω.

    Acts 7:35 τουτον τον μωυσην ον ηρνησαντο ειποντες τις σε κατεστησεν αρχοντα και δικαστην τουτον ο θεος αρχοντα και λυτρωτην απεστειλεν εν χειρι αγγελου του οφθεντος αυτω εν τη βατω

    Oh, by the way, which Greek text quoted above did the translators of the KJV follow, and what influenced them to translate Acts 7:35 the way that they did?

    Bottom line—how well to you REALLY understand Acts 7:35 in the KJV?
     
  12. Cix

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    And you will probably spend the first few minutes of those few years discovering the innaccuracy of the King James Bible just by reading Matthew 23:24 and then translating it yourself from Greek.
     
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    [​IMG]
    That was a good one, LOL

    Oh, sorry, I thought it was a joke
    :(
     
  14. Askjo

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    Oh no!
     
  15. Cix

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    Amen Brother Ed. Many people don't understand that verse 7 pertains to verse 5 and is not talking about the words in verse 6. It's talking about people. [​IMG]
     
  16. KJVBibleThumper

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    Amen Brother Ed. Many people don't understand that verse 7 pertains to verse 5 and is not talking about the words in verse 6. It's talking about people. [​IMG] </font>[/QUOTE]Annnnd...just how did you come to this remarkable conclusion? Please,enlighten me. [​IMG]
     
  17. Ed Edwards

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    Study the Baptist doctrine of Soul Competency

    [​IMG]
     
  18. KJVBibleThumper

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    Study the Baptist doctrine of Soul Competency

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    </font>[/QUOTE]Im not sure what the problem is, verse 6 says "the words of the Lord are pure words:as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times." verse 7 says "Thou shalt keep them,O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever."
    Seems clear enough to me, 'course im just an "uneducated KJVO". [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    As a former Greek student, I must concur. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  20. Dr. Bob

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    Thump, you ARE showing yourself to be an "uneducated KJVO" (your words, sarcasm intended).

    This thread will not be diverted. Go and search for Ps 12 threads. They are legion.

    Simple English lesson: the subject of what is being preserved is PEOPLE, not God's Word. And even if it were, this was 2500 years BEFORE the AV.

    Enough said. Look it up and you will be another step "educated"!
     

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