Excuse me

Molly it's about this

My sin is mine and mine alone. I have to carry that burden. I have to live with what I do. I choose to do things that are sin. Others, I constantly work on.

This isn't about Churches telling members this and that. It's not about accountablity i'm ALL for that. What this is about is one person taking it upon themself to rid another person of sin. To stand in the LORD's place and pass judgement.

This is about the times i've heard "KJV 1611 Is the only Bible" , about all the times I've heard. "You should never wear pants". This is about all the times iv'e heard, "You shouldn't watch movies". "You shouldn't do this, or that or this or that."

True these things are sinning in some form or another. Depending on which and which one. The one about the KJV 1611, -shakes head- It's not the only Bible. There were Bibles before and Bibles after. GOOD ones at that. TRUE ones.

I understand that brothers and sisters want to help people and help thier lives better. The only thing that this kind of treatment has done is drive me away from a church I once held dear.

This is not about a church, this is about saved christians -takes a breath and get's blunt- Who think that they have the LORD's phone number in their pocket who have forgotten that they are sinners and who look down thier nose, and cricify new christians for not doing what "THEY" deam is correct. This post is about someone standing up and saying things that hurt. This is about people standing up and being cruel JUST to get a point across. This is about people forgetting that the LORD who saved them, preached TOLERANCE and LOVE before everything else and who's soul purpose is FORGIVENESS.

And, i've forgiven those who have hurt me. That is the way I am. But, there are other GOOD people out there who will be pushed away from the WORD, the TRUTH, the LIGHT, all because of what they choose to wear.

I'm sorry but, as a SAVED woman, I have to let that person know that it dosen't matter what you wear, where you live, what Bible you read, as LONG AS YOU BELIEVE. That is what it's about.

Jesus didn't die on the cross so that we could be spiteful and petty about what he wanted us to do. he died on the cross so that we could be spiteful and petty and still get to heaven.

God Bless

Wendy

 

No your not. Not at all. I really don't know one person who has judged me here.

It's about the diffrent posts I read, all the arguing here and in RL. It's about people losing thier TRUE focus on the LORD, cause they are so busy downing others. I didn't think that I would be responding much to this tread as I have. But, I am .

this thread as I stated before was to make sure people knew what it took to get to heaven. It's spawned off into my own hurt, and more explinations as to why I started it. But, that dosen't deviate from the beginning post.

There is only one way to get to heaven, Though the blood of our savior, the rest is just that the rest.

Once you become a Saved person, God begins to clean you up. Slowly and surely. He'll bring you to the right church, right fellowship, right decisions about your life. As he has done for me. I just wanted everyone to know that's how he works.

 

Joseph when I come across a post that bothers me, I always say that i'm praying for them.

 

Charles I think my point is both. I'm a new christian and am too young to make a judgement on "Churches" as a whole. I can only do what I do, ask individuals to follow Christ's example.

 

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

 

This is the very thing that i'm talking about. We can sit down and nit pick everything having to do with salvation. But, that dosen't change what salvation is . Salvation is believing in
JESUS CHRIST that he DIED for you and that only though him can you get to heaven.

 

Amen RTG ....

 

I understand your frustration Charles. But, it's a fact that a LOT of people believe like this. In the KJV1611, there is nothing saying it's the only "correct" translation. But, this is not a debate on KJV1611, NIV, Living Bible or any other version. The facts are the facts

1. Baptism is a step of obedience after salvation. Now notice that I said obedience. I did not say that you shouldn't or couldn't. I think that you should.

2. You don't have to belong to a church in order to be saved. It helps, believe me it helps to be around other people who believe the same you do. Finding a church after salvation should be as important or really MORE important than buying a house, car , or anything else you would put a LOT of thinking in. The right church will bring you internal peace. The wrong church will make you steer clear of them. SOME (I said some not ALL ) some saved people who do not attend church are not really backslidden, they are frustrated they can't find one that believes as they do. I have a few SAVED friends in this. I pray daily for them and their search.

3. The last thing I said, you don't have to take communion, you don't have to confess to a priest, or anything other than believe in Christ. Just believe , with your whole heart. It might sound easy, but to be honest it is. It's living after that is sometimes hard. Letting go of all those things we do that are not good for us.

While this tread began on a personal note about how I felt about a few real life situations. I think that it has become apparent that i'm not the only one in this. I think that it is plain to see.

I also think that now we have gotten that out of the way we have a solid chance in helping each other.

I have quite a few things that I need to stop doing. Speaking my mind is not one of them. I'm not taking anything out on board members. What I am doing is what I see everyone else doing. Putting my personal belifs up and then defending them. I've apologized at times because they have stung others. I'm sorry that they have. But, I assure you some of other's personal beliefs have gotten to me too.

I am not a KJO, Personally I could never be. It is not my PLACE to say which Bible is accurate. I could debate all day on why one is better over another. I will tell you what I do.

KJV1611 -> first .... I always go to this one first

NIV-> Second ... to see it in another light.

I know many do not believe this and will tell me that i'm wrong. That's ok, it's their right to do so. They can scream at me if they wish, Chastize me, and whatever they feel the need to do. It's alright.

As the song goes...

you can talk about me all that you please.. I'll talk about you down on my knees.

Thank you for taking the time to read this unusually long butt in.. But, I felt the need to express myself one final time and make sure the explinations were what I wanted others to see. I realize in my first post I was very general. Hopefully this will help.


Thank you

Wendy