Exposed: The extremeist agenda

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  1. hillclimber1

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    Glen Beck on CNN tonight is going to show the evening news and lots more as it appears in Iran. How they raise children as bombs, how they just NEED the upcoming Nuke, and how they will bring the 12 Imam (sp) if they can kill enough infidels. etc.


    It shows 3 times tonight though the ad says twice
     
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    I read where it comes on CNN Headline News Channel at 9:00 ET, 8:00 Central tonight. Am planning to watch it. People need to wake up!!

    Here's another one that aired (I missed it). The trailer is here:

    http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/
     
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    Whoohoo! Let's demonise an entire people!

    Sounds like a bit of a challenge as Iranian suicide child bombers are, um, uncommon.

    I thought Bush & Blair were wooing Iran now...
     
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    :sleep: .....huh? :rolleyes: ..... :sleep: .....WHAT THE..... ?!!! :eek:
     
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    Exactly! *snork*
     
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    In Iran, perhaps, but then again, Iran was the country who used to send children through to clear the mine fields during their war with Iraq. So nothing should surprise us about Iran. The images taken in these documentaries, BTW, are on main stream Arabic TV throughout the middle east.

    More here:

    http://www.palestinemediawatch.com/

    The islamic terror threat is very real with millions of supporters and millions of people being propangandized by lies throughout the world, so there is no point for the West to continue to be politically correct or in a state of denial. The propaganda techniques are resurrected from Nazi Germany but now have the added touch of state-of-the-art and can be broadcast to billions via satellite.
     
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    Time: Friday 9:00 p.m. ET Fox News is airing Obsession right now if anyone is interested.
     
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    Do suicide bombers get mad if the bomb doesn't go off?
     
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    Why is there no reply with quote option?

    Is it my computer?

    Did my comp (lack) knowledge finally catch me?
     
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    I cannot start a new thread, either. What's up.
     
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    I had added and asterisk to adblock this AM, because of a prompt, and so I went back and deleted it. Shazzammmm problem fixed. Am i smart or what?
    I know....WHAT
     
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    But Islam in Iran is not representative of main stream Islam. Iran is mostly Shiite which only makes up 20% of Muslims world wide. Only some shiites believe in the twelve Imams and wait for the Mahdi. Shia Muslims are very divided in their faith. I know Islamic scholars from Pakistan and Iran who are good friends of mines and who are both "twelver" Shiite Muslims and they disaprove of such actions very heavily.

    As Daisy suggested it is unfair, to demonize an entire population.

    Also, the thread starter is wrong in the notion that the Iranians want to bring back the 12 Imams, because it is not the 12 Imams that the Shiites wait for, it is the Mahdi, who will come and restore Islam to what it should be, the Mahdi's appearance will also herald the end times.

    The use of children as soldiers may be viewed as the agenda of some extremist groups, but shouldn't be considered a generally accepted or encouraged idea in the Muslim community
     
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    Your friend might disapprove of such actionis very heavily, however, it is a known fact that the madrassas in Pakistan among other places are teaching hatred against the West and jihad. What your Muslim friends may say to your face may be entirely different than what they say behind your back. The Quran says it is okay and not a sin to lie to infidels. Which is exactly what is being done all over the globe.


    Tell that to Palestinian TV. http://www.pmw.org.il/ Shahid, soldier, what's the difference?

    And tell that to Walid Shoebat: http://www.shoebat.com/
     
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    Perhaps we should look at the fact that Pakistan is our current ally in the war on terrorism.

    So you ignore all of the facts that I posted and instead make shots at the character of my friends.




    Shahid is the Arabic word for Witness. One of the ways people may witness is by dying for the protectin of ones faith. Martydom cannot be achieved through acts of sheer aggression, even if it is against "unbelievers." It must be in defence of the religion.


    I could find the same stuff in Christianity. Does that mean that Christianity is a religion of hate? Of course it isn't. We in the west know enough about Christianity in order to put radical Christian groups such as the KKK and the Aryan nation into proper context, unfortunatly the same is not true for the west and Islam. I won't deny that anti-western feeling is currently popular throughout the Middle East, but I feel that you are making it seem like it is a direct product of Islam and are ignoring all of the political and cultural reasons.

    I agree that it is very sad that these children are being brainwashed to such ends. But I feel that it is unfair to trump this around as mainstream Islamic ideals when they are not. The LRA in Uganda is comprised of 70% of abducted children who all fight (and won't even take cover in the heat of battle, if they do, they are shot for lack of faith) in the name of Jesus. Such attrocities are not products of religion; instead, in these instances religion is a victom. These are people are twisting it to meet their own goals, and it would be happening even in the absence of Islam or Christianity, these people would simply find some other way to justify it.
     
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    Yes, there are portions of the Pakistani government (Musharraf) are supposedly our ally, but are in fear of being toppled by the radical Muslims. There are an estimated 28000 madrassas in Pakistan which are preaching jihad and violence according to the Quran. OBL and his minions are believed to have been harbored in sections of Pakistan near the Afghanistan border and OBL is regarded as a folk hero by many there. Meanwhile, Christians are still being persecuted and murdered in Pakistan. There is no religious freedom.

    Have you ignored the fact that the Quran teaches it is okay to lie to infidels? Do you deny that the Quran teaches to kill the Jews and infidels?

    So, are you saying that when a "shahid" straps on a bomb belt and travels to Israel and blows up a bus full of Jews or goes into a pizza parlor in Jerusalem and blows up Jewish babies and children, they are being a witness and dying for the protection of their faith? Please, get real.

    Muslims have no fear of persecution by the Israeli government - they are free to practice their religion openly, unlike Christians & Jews in most Islamic countries.

    Yes, the anti-western feeling popular throughout not only the Middle East and the rest of the Islamic world is based upon the religion of islam, the teachings of the Quran, and the messages of hate spewed forth every Friday in the mosques. Christianity is not a religion of hate and neither does Christianity go around saying they are a "religion of peace" while chopping off heads and mutilating sexual organs and teaching to kill your enemies. Jesus said to turn the other cheek. Muhammed said to kill the infidel or those who don't believe in islam. Jesus died to save His followers. Muhammed started off killing, beheading 800 people (Jews) who refused to convert to his demonic religion. But Jesus said if they won't hear you, to wipe the dust off your feet and leave.

    To equate the KKK and Nazis with Christianity is a red herring. In fact, David Duke (of the KKK) has aligned himself with muslim groups and the tactics used by the Nazis are the tactics used by muslims. In fact, Mein Kampf and Jihad basically mean the same thing.

    First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people. The Country of Afghanistan is a perfect example. There used to be Baptist Churches in Afghanistan. Now the only religion allowed to be practiced there is islam.

    But they are. If you would be open minded and scrutinize Middle Eastern or Arabic television and other media, you would see there is a constant theme of hating the Jews and hating the West and children are indoctrinated into this hatred. Perhaps you should take the time to see what is being spewed forth on ME TV.

    Who are the LRA (rebels) in Uganda fighting against - a Muslim government. In Sudan and other African nations children are being abducted by muslims and sold into sex slavery or trained to fight the jihad.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26672

    In Sierra Leone, the diamonds financed al Qaeda. Nation after African nation has fallen to islam at the cost of millions of lives being tortured, displaced, starved out, or outright murdered. It is the religion. There is a pattern. The West is foolish not to notice the patterns of the spread of islam throughout history.
     

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