Extreme Fundamentalism

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  1. Dr. Bob

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    Feel "bad" that Rev. Phelps did not make it today from Kansas. His wife and 10-12 deacons and their wives have been here since Friday. Guess he is busy stirring the pot somewhere else.

    This weekend is the 5th anniversary of one of my neighbor boys, Matt Shepard, who was killed in Laramie. Phelps wanted to erect a monument in City Park (next to the 10 Commandments) celebrating 5 years in hell. Kid you not.

    Now the media will never tell the real story of how Matt tried to "hit" on a nice, clean-cut kid at the bar (thinking he was gay). The boy was so enraged that he and his buddy lured Matt out, then tortured and killed him. The two are serving long prison terms . . and probably learning more about sodomy than they care.

    But FUNDAMENTALISM and especially BAPTISTS are taking a beating by Phelps et al coming to our town and parading around every October. This kind of "extreme fundamentalism" is very hurtful to the cause of Christ.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Are they possibly in the same boat with the murderers of abortionists?
     
  3. Watchman

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    Thoughts?

    Yes, my thoughts are that the gay community needs SALT.
    Not SUGAR from the far left that gives them a pat on the back and makes them think that their lifestyle is acceptable. Anyone who has been here for awhile knows who had that approach on this board.
    Neither do they need the ACID that they get from the far right that is personified in Mr. Phelps, that says God doesn't love you, there is no hope for you.
    No, they need SALT. They need tough love, for a better thing to call it. The assurance that God loves them, but, He absolutely cannot tolerate their lifestyle. The answer for them, is the answer for all of us: Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Only He can forgive, cleanse AND change us so that we can bear fruit pleasing to God.
     
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    Amen Watchman.

    Phelps isn't a fundamentalist, extreme or otherwise. Fundamentalists believe the Bible, including the parts about loving your enemies and preaching repentance to sinners and being saddened by the death of unbelievers.

    Phelps is probably guilty of the blood of many homosexuals who use his venom as an excuse not to hear the gospel.
     
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    what an ugly picture of someone so obsessed with someone that has most probably gone to hell. this man must love the attention he gets for this unbiblical behavior, but i do agree with another poster, that phelps is not a fundamentalist even in an extreme degree. the media must love this phelps guy with the idea that most christians resemble his doctrine. i think that he is a liberalphobe, that is, he is a liberal who fears his own condition.
    "liberalphobia" is that a word? well i guess it is now
     
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    Nice, clean-cut kids don't lure Matt out, then torture and kill him just because he made a sexual pass at them. :(

    The REAL STORY is the torture and murder of a young man and not the 'pass' he made at a straight guy.

    Diane
     
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    Phelps is NOT a Fundamentalist! He's a fanatic! Fanatics have a "One track mind"----Phelps, though is what I call then, "One tracked"---'cause he don't have a mind!! A Fundamentalist with even half a mind--don't do what it is Phelps does!

    I think what's wrong with Phelps is---he didn't get all the attention from his daddy he should have gotten when he was little---just one more glorified "Tail Whippin'" when he was little would have been enough to stop Phelps from doing what he does right now!

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    Nice, clean-cut kids don't lure Matt out, then torture and kill him just because he made a sexual pass at them. :(

    The REAL STORY is the torture and murder of a young man and not the 'pass' he made at a straight guy.
    </font>[/QUOTE]Agreed!

    On occasion, I have had men “hit” on me, but it is no excuse to respond with violence! :rolleyes:
     
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    Phelps seems to be the same sort of person who would join the KKK or a neo-Nazi group and claim he was a Christian.

    [ October 24, 2003, 06:25 AM: Message edited by: C.S. Murphy ]
     
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    Phelps seems to be the same sort of person who would join the KKK or a neo-Nazi group and claim he was a Christian. </font>[/QUOTE]well, that statement maybe true it is been suggested that hitler was a closet homosexual who hated his own sin and lashed out toward other homosexuals with hate, and it is said that many neo nazis are homophobes just like hitler, so in short they are extreme liberals
     
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    I will point out that this is a theory that, though tittilating, cannot be substantiated. Was hiltler a closet Jew? Hitler had issues motivating his hatred that were far too broad to reduce to homosexual desires. I don't like the term homophobe because it is consistanly used as propoganda by the gay left. A phobia is a recognized, eccentric aversion to an object or situation. It denotes a behavior toward the stimulus that is abnormal in relation to the expected reaction of a majority of a greater population of individuals. I don't have an abnormal aversion to gay people and I doubt that many truly do. I don't hang out in or frequent gay bars or hang with individuals who are gay because on one hand that lifestyle is sinful and contrary to my Christian upbringing, and principally you are known by the company you keep. In the bible we are told to flee from the very appearence of sin. So by the definition of the liberal, pro-gay masses we Christians could have an aversion to or "phobia" of sin. I do not believe that, by Christ's standards that this is a dishonorable characteristic behavior.
     
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    Nice, clean-cut kids don't lure Matt out, then torture and kill him just because he made a sexual pass at them. :(

    The REAL STORY is the torture and murder of a young man and not the 'pass' he made at a straight guy.

    Diane
    </font>[/QUOTE]Diane,

    You beat me to the punch on this one. These two boys were in no way victims and should not be sympathized with or made to look as if they were victims in any way. They committed a crime against God and humanity. They are paying the price, although, probably not as much as they deserve to pay for what they did, IMO. On the other hand, Phelps loves to make light of the horror of what Matt is going through right now and for the rest of eternity. It is almost as if he is celebrating the fact that he went to Hell. He is happy this guy is in Hell. He is happy these two thugs tortured and murdered him. That is sick. And the media is all overjoyed, I am sure, to paint all Christians who are conservative as being just like him. And then, the most sickening part is here we are as Christians giving this hate-monger more exposure than the national mainstream liberal media does. I wonder why, again, we are willing to even give him the courtesy of discussing his hatred.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    Just wanted to add my 2 cents in that this guy is not a fundamentalist at all. Do we really need any more reasons to paint Hitler as one of the bad guys? He seems to more than qualify.
     

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