extreme political poliecies

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UnchartedSpirit, Nov 23, 2005.

  1. UnchartedSpirit

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    I loved the way Dr. MgGee phrased it that Extreme Capitalists say "What's mine is mine" and Extreme Socicalists Say "What's yours is mine." I gess that's a bit old, though some liberals are sill socialists in my area....but I'm seeing alot of Capitalist favor growing firghtening in the Liberalmindset. It's almost like the only thing they want illegal is if you hate it or don't pay for it. I talking about Amsterdam and somewhat Nevada, even Vegas has loopholes. Well, some student's at my school were proposing in an effective speaking class that some crimes could be a lot safer and beneficial if they're legalized. I just need some encouraging over this please.
     
  2. KenH

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  3. UnchartedSpirit

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    That didnt help the coice I should make over it
     
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    What choice are you looking to make exactly? Do you want information concerning both sides of the legalization of illegal substances debate, or are you looking for information more along the lines of capitalism v. socialism?
     
  5. Daisy

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    My impression is that Uncharted Spirit has already chosen and is looking for ammunition for his side which is against de-criminalization of certain actions.

    I'm surprised Ken's reference didn't help...
     
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    well what everyone is saying around here is that ethics and morals shouldn't matter as long as it makes lots of money and is safe. Plus I don't see the negitave socical effects of prostitution, or adult entertainment either, but maybe its because I'm young.
     
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    The very act of allowing or condoning prostitution or pornography, is a huge negative against society. They are degrading to both sexes, but particularily women, and are sins with great significance in society.
     
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    The backbone of your ethics is your world view. If people are worthless then you will discard people to get what you want. If money is more important than people then you will use people and love money.

    Sometime ask about who pays for the cleanup of a shattered life from the world of Las Vegas.
     
  9. Scott J

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    If they are willing to go to a truly libertarian society then I, even as a very conservative IFB, would be willing.

    That means that we legalize drugs... but de-legalize any and all government programs to drug addicts or those who find themselves in poverty because of drugs.

    It means that businesses can present grotesque entertainment but are fully liable for the damages done to children and others by their business.

    It means that prostitution is legalized but no gov't money for to fix the associated problems like STD's.

    It means that you can use drugs if you want... and a business or other entity operating within their property and self-protection rights can drug test you and dismiss you without liability. In fact, they shouldn't even need a test. It's their property and only a privilege to an employee... they should be able to fire someone for any reason they see fit including the belief that someone is using drugs regardless of proof.

    Those who advocate a right to use drugs, uncontrolled porn, and prostitution usually don't want to bear responsibility. They want the freedom then want us through the gov't to pick up the bill or want government to force us to accept them and pay directly for their misconduct.

    In the 1920's, there were local but significant drug problems. There were few laws and no "drug war". There also weren't any government programs to support addicts directly or indirectly. Addicts lay in the streets for others tempted by the promise of a "good time" to see. Relief was provided by private organizations and evangelistic outreaches... The problem basically disappeared until the 1950's.

    Since the 1950's, drug abuse and the associated crime and poverty have become a "government problem". Billions have been wasted... and we aren't even close to a solution.

    I think a libertarian society where those who want to act on these freedoms bear responsibility for the consequences would actually diminish the problems.

    [ November 28, 2005, 06:26 PM: Message edited by: Scott J ]
     
  10. Johnv

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    I've never been able to figure out why it's illegal to give someone money in exchange for sex, but it's not illegal to buy a person dinner in exchange for sex. I'm not advocating the legalization of prostitution, but I often wonder of it has turned out to be as socially hypocritical as prohibition.
     
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    The difference is as clear as night and day. Why can't you see it? You are clearly making a case for declaring prostitution as legal as sex after dinner, which I don't think is really legal outside marraige.
     
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    The biggest issue on prostitution is why should we spend scare law enforcement resources to try to stop a voluntary transaction and even at that we stop very, very few of these transactions from taking place.
     
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    HC, I think it would be satisfactory to make transactions of sexual favors invalid and nonbinding (in other words, if a person agrees to pay money for sex, that agreement cannot be legally enforced). Ken makes a good point when asking if the resources of law enforcement stopping voluntary and consenting actions is worthwhile. I'm not saying I have an answer, but I'm saying the question is worth asking.
     
  14. freedom's cause

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    being young doesn't mean you have to be unimformed please research your problem logicaly
    thru the net logic over personal opinion study to
    show yourself a workman approved get the facts and go with integrity honesty and truth fight the good fight unchartered spirit and get chartered on the right course God vs Shatan and
    God has already won what will you do fight the good fight and win
     
  15. freedom's cause

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    the bible has the answers to your questions read it and know the answer stay away from prostitution follow Christ's example following the way of the world will just end up taking our
    souls and separating us from God forever
     
  16. freedom's cause

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    setting up a standard with laws helps us to follow guidelines and know boundaries showing
    us what is best for us including our physical
    and mental state as well direction for right and
    wrong behaviour without laws chaos and laws come
    from God debachery and perversion lead to self destruction which in turn destroy society
     

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