Eye-Opening Graphic: Map of Muslim Countries that the U.S. and Israel Have Bombed

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  1. poncho

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    Eye-Opening Graphic: Map of Muslim Countries that the U.S. and Israel Have Bombed

    Pro-Israel propagandist Jeffrey Goldberg made an inadvertent but profound admission the other day when he said: “[T]he U.S. have been waging a three-decade war for domination of the Middle East.”

    This “three-decade war for domination of the Middle East” becomes apparent when we consider how many Muslim countries the peace-loving United States and her “stalwart ally” Israel have bombed:

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    With seven active wars in seven different Muslim countries, it is quite an amazing thing that Americans can have the audacity to ask: “why are Muslims so violent and warlike?”

    VIEW THE MAP.
     
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    From loonwatch.com :laugh:
     
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    Yeah I know it's way easier and more patriotic to just say "it's their religion". Or call me names. Whatever.

    The facts is still the facts.
     
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    :tear::tear::tear::tear:
     
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    Sorry, don't trust the source.

    Re: Jeffrey Goldberg, he also, according to Wikipedia:

    It would also be helpful if we knew exactly WHY these bombs were dropped. Is it to take out terrorist strongholds? It is not usually our policy to drop bombs on innocent people for no reason. If it were, we could have accomplished that in Afghanistan and Iraq without ever setting boots on the ground.

    I tried to check the domain registry for both loon watch and islamophobia today and they are registered under a blind registration, so obviously, they don't want their particular brand of anti-US propaganda questioned.

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    Exactly. What is the reasons behind these attacks? There is always more to the story - that is never printed because then it would make no story....
     
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    PS: Islamic violence is towards everyone, not just the US and Israel - but just the OP itself and the blind web site registrations lead me to believe that this is a pro-Palestinian group hiding behind their sites. Nearly all nations of the earth where Muslims reside have had acts of violence even Muslim against Muslim, which has nothing at all to do with the US and Israel. The goal of the jihadists is for world domination. One only has to look at history to understand how far back these beliefs go, even as far back as Mohammed himself, when he beheaded 600 Jews in Medina. The Crusades were instigated by Muslims. The Barbary pirates were Muslims. The Caliphates beheaded non-muslims and enslaved women and children in all nations they invaded.

    Around the world, there have been people slapping on suicide vests and taking out thousands of people in the name of their god. Places where there are no US military bases, etc., places like vacation spots in Bali, or even in China or Russa.

    And France.

    The French, just today or yesterday, printed some Islamic cartoons. This is an interesting quote from the French editor that I find refreshing.

    From jihadwatch.com

    I agree that some of our foreign policy has been wrongheaded and throwing billions of dollars away to countries and governments who hate us is disgusting. But to blame America first? No, I won't do that. If there is any conspiracy going on, it is within the Muslim community (who worked hand in hand with Germany's Nazis in WW2) who has a disdain for freedom and the accomplishments of the West. Islam has accomplished nothing but death and destruction as long as it has been around, starting with Mohammed.

    Just the fact that you, poncho, have the freedom to post what you do and to push the anti-US propoganda and conspiracy theories that you do, is a testament to the greatness of our nation. Yes, our Constitution is trampled on and there probably is some grain of truth to some of the things you post, (not this OP, however), but let's get a reality check--if you lived in a Muslim country or in China or probably even in Russia and tried that, you would be stopped after the first couple of posts and never heard from again. Think about it.


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    West Attempts to Trigger Clash of Civilizations

    Al Qaeda & Islamophobic bigots working in tandem exploiting fear and ignorance.

    September 19, 2012 - In France where people are sent to jail for "Holocaust denial," considered by law a religious hate crime, it seems strange then that well timed, raunchy cartoons designed solely to insult and inflame hate against and amongst Muslims worldwide would be defended vigorously by French politicians who claim, according to the Christian Science Monitor, that "freedom of the press should not be infringed."

    With Neo-Conservative warmongers behind a recent inflammatory film titled, "The Innocence of Muslims," and their counterparts amongst radical sectarian extremists leading violent protests across the Middle East and North Africa, it would almost seem as if the publication of insulting cartoons by a French paper, "Charlie Hebdo," was part of a grander strategy to create a manufactured conflict between Islam and the West, setting the stage for more overt military operations to take over faltering covert operations in Syria and beyond.

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    The Lie We Are Expected to Believe

    What we are now expected to believe is that France, the US, UK, and other nations were benevolently, and unwittingly helping these groups into power, only to be betrayed by extremists.

    In reality, the nature of these militant groups was known years in advance, these groups specifically chosen to lead the violent subversion of Western targets across the Arab World - with the possibility of sectarian genocide and significant blowback acknowledged as an acceptable risk.

    In 2007, an article by Seymour Hersh published in the New Yorker titled, "The Redirection" admitted that:

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    The Plan: Flip the Script (Again)

    In reality, Obama provided left-cover for a singular corporate-financier driven agenda, decided upon decades ago, and part of the reoccurring patterns and themes that define all empires past and present.

    It appears that the public is becoming increasingly aware that the US has just handed the nation of Libya over to sectarian extremists and is backing brigades of these same terrorists, now operating in Syria. The operation in Syria seems to have reached a stalemate, with the further arming and backing of increasingly visible terrorist forces a politically untenable option.

    It appears that the alternative plan is to flip the script once more, turning Al Qaeda - who began as celebrated freedom fighters battling Soviets in the mountains of Afghanistan, to reviled terrorists waging a decade of war on America in Iraq and Afghanistan, to freedom fighters seeking to oust Qaddafi and President Bashar al-Assad, to once again back to reviled, embassy attacking, ambassador-killing thugs.

    Seemingly fully committed to tipping off a "clash of civilizations," the ground is being prepared for false flag attacks and preparing public opinion for more direct military intervention in places like Syria and Iran. The failures of the last four years of corporate-financier driven policy is being compartmentalized around Obama and will be flushed with his presidency either in 2012, or 2016 with the hopes that the agenda itself will survive and carry on.

    CONTINUE . . .

    Wes Clark - America's Foreign Policy "Coup"

    How is exposing the radical warmongering elements inside our government being anti US? I know, because you whole heartedly support some of them and you'd rather not see the truth about them in black and white. You've always supported these crazies and evidently you still do. Well, these crazies of your's are destroying your country right before your eyes.

    If you supported this country half as much as you do these crazies that are gutting it you'd be upset with them for doing it and not me for exposing them. Think about it.
     
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    Genesis 16:11-12 LITV
    11 And the Angel of Jehovah said to her, Behold! You are with child and shall bear a son; and you shall call his name Ishmael, because Jehovah has listened to your affliction.
    12 And he shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against all, and the hand of everyone against him; and he shall live before all his brothers.
    ....and we blame it all on a map and a video?
     
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    Well, well, well, turns out I was right about Loonwatch, imagine that!!

    Yes, no wonder they operate behind a "blind" registration....


    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/Loonwatch-List.htm.htm



     
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    Nope on very well documented facts and historical events. I imagine after living on emotion and fairytales for so long now that's a foreign concept to you guys.

    Some of you seem to enjoy being lied to and manipulated. That's fine but don't expect me to enjoy it just because you do. The facts is the facts whether you like them or not.

    It would seem you really don't like hearing (or seeing) the facts when they all point towards your neocon heros and their un-American and treasonous world domination agenda.

    I have to admit one thing though. I really get a kick out of watching you guys get so upset with the democrats when they try to chill free speech by accusing people of racism when they question the democrats policies and motives when you yourselves are guilty of the very same crime. Oh you don't accuse people of being racist to chill free speech, you accuse them of being "conspiracy theorists" instead to chill free speech.

    You know what says about you? Right? No? Think about it.

    And some of you even try to accuse me of spreading anti US propaganda even while you yourselves desperately seek ways to cover for and defend the very people and insane policy that is destroying not only your own country but every country in the middle east and north Africa! What's up with that?
     
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    Wow, poncho, there's no reason to go off on the members here.

    I must have struck a nerve. :eek:
     
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    I've had this nagging question for some time now. Why am I here? What good does it do me to come back here week after week and endure all the name calling and put downs all you good Christian people can come up with?

    I've wondered and prayed at length about it and I still didn't know why I kept coming back here. Then a thought hit me the other night while I was deep in prayer.

    It may be that I'm here to take the place of your long lost conscience. That would explain why you all hate me and what I have to say so much wouldn't it?

    Think about it. Better yet pray about it. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    This one I may agree with you on. We have no business having ANY presence in Muslim or Arabic countries. That includes embassies or financial interests. We would have to adjust our energy needs. For the money we have spent in Iraq, not to speak of the lives, and other miscalculations in these countries, we could have figured out a way to meet our energy needs by now if the money had gone to energy research instead. Once we were out of all those countries, I would warn them one time to leave us alone.
     
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    Poncho- When you make your reputation by posting conspiracy theories as much as you do, a bit of good-natured ribbing is to be expected.
     
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    As time passes, I find myself agreeing more with this position. Unfortunately, I think because international relationships are so complicated, I see little possibility for dramatic change.
     
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    You can't get any deeper into the history of the persistent conflict in the Middle East than to start at the beginning. I'd say God's proclamation over Ishmael is the most reliable primary source available. No propaganda, no politics, no theories or conspiracies. Just the truth.

    "And he shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against all, and the hand of everyone against him;" God proclaimed this and it has been so in every generation since Ishmael's birth. Segment history as you wish but that doesn't change a thing.
     
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    So the US has engaged in military action in 75 countries and that will probably grow to an even higher number. How many of these 75 countries have bombed the US?

     
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    Not to start another free will vs predestination thread here, (we have an ample supply) but it is a given that this is an area of conflict from the start, or at least thousands of years ago, one would think we would have sense enough to leave it alone. Trillions of dollars, and thousands of lives to show that we did not take the verses seriously. It is almost like the US Government, of all organizations, somehow thought they could trump the Word of God. Again, the only way to handle people who hate freedom and liberty is to get out of their presence, and if they mess with us after that, wipe them out.
     
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    Amalekites.
     

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