Faith Part 8

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  1. Ztheberean

    Ztheberean
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    Faith
    Part 8


    Faith needs grace for the obedience that is in His name (Rom 1:5); For we are saved by grace through the faith of Christ that creates Christ in us, through God (the Fathers) gifted workmanship so that no one would boast (that they brought Christ into themselves) (Eph 2:8-10).

    And this gift of God’s workmanship upon us, needs to be asked for (Jn 4:10); Without God working in us, we are the children of disobedience because we are walking in the lusts of our flesh, and fulfilling the desires of the flesh, and the mind (Eph 2:2-3).

    Is your Pastor teaching you these things? If not, then you are believing in a lie that “believes” the righteousness of faith means that “WE” can bring Christ into ourselves, and all of this is because of an ignorance of the righteousness of God, and so believers have gone about to establish “their own” righteousness (by bringing Christ into themselves) (Rom 10:3, 6-7).

    These believers have a zeal for God, but its not according to knowledge (Rom 10:2); Therefore, if believers can have a love for all of this truth, they can be saved without having pleasure in an unrighteous lifestyle, and God does not send these a strong delusion because they can believe this truth
    (2Thess 2:10-12).

    Are you being taught these things so that you can stand with these brethren? (2Thess 2:15); If so, then you have the good hope through grace and you can be comforted, and established in every good word (so that you can speak these things) and work (2Thess 2:16-17).

    Do you understand the need to come from (“your own”) faith to (the) faith (of Christ) so that you can live JUST by His faith? (Rom 1:17); Do you have someone in your life who is imparting the spiritual gift (of grace in its teaching) so that you can be established in the faith? (Rom 1:11); Without which we ARE ignorant of all of these things which need to be learned
    (Rom 1:13).

    In the gift of Christ, we are given grace, so that we can receive the pastors, evangelists, and teachers who are into the work of THE MINISTRY through the edification of the body of Christ, so that the saints could be perfected
    (Eph 4:7, 11-12).

    This is how we can become united in the faith, and have the knowledge of the Son of God unto being perfected (Eph 4:13) Do you have (“your own”) faith OR the faith OF Christ? (Rom 1:17).

    Those who have the faith of Christ have been crucified with Christ, so that it is no longer “them” living (for their own selves) but Christ is living in them (so that they could live unto God for others) (Gal 2:20).

    Have you asked God to take you through this crucifying process??

    If not, all you can do is frustrate the grace of God (Gal 2:21), that creates Christ in us through the gifted workmanship of God by His grace, through the faith of Christ so that we can be saved (Eph 2:10-8).
     
  2. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    If you take this,
    "In the gift of Christ, we are given grace, so that we can receive the pastors, evangelists, and teachers who are into the work of THE MINISTRY through the edification of the body of Christ, so that the saints could be perfected
    (Eph 4:7, 11-12)",
    for meaning the Scriptures, I, for one, may say, yes!
     

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