False teacher?

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  1. Jacob Gastrich

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    http://www.atruechurch.info/

    This guy is sick. But I have to wonder if he is a false teacher. Perhaps he (like Fred Phelps) is saved or is not saved (I do not know) but just lacks fruit in some areas. Is Fred Phelps saved? Looking at his website he certainly is not teaching false doctrine, but its obvious he lacks love. Perhaps he will be saved as one going through the flames as the Bible puts it.
     
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    I would not waste my time reading his material!
     
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    I agree... He is a nutcase.
    I will not be reading his trash.
     
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    He says some good things, but how much sewage does it take to spoil your drinking water? You can tell a lot by someone's attitude, and this guy's attitude is ungodly. Beware.
     
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    Then he like Phelps is not a false teacher, just a unfruitful Christian.
     
  6. Jack Matthews

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    His opening statement says that if you believe that Billy Graham, etc. etc. etc., are godly men, you cannot be saved.

    But his statement of faith says that all who repent and believe in the resurrected Christ will have complete forgiveness of their sin and eternal life. There is no qualification or list of correct doctrine which must accompany that event to either assure or maintain salvation.

    It sounds a bit contradictory to me. But then, I have a tendency to look for contradictions in everything, so it might just be me.
     
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    BTW, if he believes what he writes about salvation, then he is saved. Why he feels led to complicate his faith with such misplaced legalism is beyond me. Perhaps it has a lot to do with his personal history, under the section titled "Who is Darwin Fish?"

    Sometimes I regret that my parents did not raise me in church. But then, I read something from someone who struggles with legalism and the compulsion to add their own works and such a complicated (and contradictory if you are blatantly honsest about it) system of doctrinal purity, covering every single little possibility with a verse from somewhere, usually taken completely out of its context. They seem to be trying to compensate for some childhood or early adolescent religious "mistake" that was made in their life.

    The other characteristic I see in a lot of people like this is an anti-education bias. Most of them didn't succeed in getting through the formal education that is somewhat expected of those in vocational Christian ministry or missions. So it becomes central to their life and faith to justify themselves by bashing formal education of any kind, and by declaring "false" the specific schools or institutions they attended. In this day, and in the culture in which we live, I am increasingly beginning to think that a formal Christian education, including seminary or divinity school, may be God's way of both preparing those who are called to serve, and weeding out those who were called by someone other than God's Holy Spirit. I'm particularly grateful that, even though I was not called to vocational ministry, but to "lay" ministry, I had the opportunity to complete a degree at a divinity school. It was money and time well spent, if for no other reason than for my own growth and development as a Christian.

    The Christian faith, and particularly the free church in a free state, is unregulated, as it should be. I believe that there are far more true believers and true churches than most of us suspect. I think it is easier for people to repent and trust Christ for their salvation than it is to trust the Holy Spirit to lead them in their Christ-walk, instead of trying to do it themselves. That's where people like Darwin Fish come in, they appeal to the people who are trying to work to please God instead of trusting the Spirit to lead them.
     
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    OK, I realize the original poster has been 86ed, but nonetheless, some folks might be interested in reading about Phil Johnson's (of Spurgeon Archive fame) run-in with Fish in his capacity as an elder at Grace Community.
     
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    Strange!! A banned poster recognizing a false teacher! :rolleyes: A bit ironic, don't you think?? :confused: Dr. Bob?, DHK?, blackbird?, bible-boy??, Andrew?? Clint?? Somebody want to give this thread all the space it deserves and kill it, as well? Just askin'.

    Ed
     
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    Sorry, Ransom! I did not really read your post until after I'd posted mine. I apologize. I'll withdraw my request, if the moderatiors so see fit to ignore it.

    Ed
     
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