Falwell apologizes

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  1. rsr

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    Children, Santa is a Terrorist.
    Next day, sorry for saying that, I only meant that for the bad little boys and girls, not the good ones.

    How does he think he was not insulting EVERY Muslim, and how are they suppose to believe somehow it only applies to a subset of Muslims?

    ...as I wrap duck tape tightly around my head...
     
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    Oh, be careful, post-it. Last night I heard duck tape removes warts. [​IMG]

    Seriously, that's what was on TV! :eek: The reasoning being duck tape starts an antibody reaction or something. :rolleyes:

    (Sorry, couldn't pass your duck tape comment by.) ;)
     
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    I heard the same thing from the doctor who has been trying to get it proven for some time. I have a couple of small warts on my arm from some curse placed on me by a witch, he he... I'll let you know if it works.
     
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    Post it, Is Jerry Falwell not allowed to repent of any thing he regrets. We all have done wrong(Rom 3 verse 23)How about praying for his forgiveness in love.
    yours in the love of Jesus,
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    I'm glad that Rev Falwell has apologized. What does that say about those of us to got on the bandwagon and said that what he said was a good thing? If he has stated what he did was regretful, should not the rest of us do likewise?

    As far as whether we should forgive him nd let it go, it seems this is becoming a regular event for him. That's twice in the last year he's had to retract and apologize. While I admire the man for the great things he's accomplished, but should we wait for a third apology?
     
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    Well, Johnv, what can I say? I maybe dont get to hear the gentleman as much as my brothers and sisters in the states, but do we not have some guidance as to how often a person can be forgiven?Is it not 7 x 70? (assuming we dont lose count on the way) I hope you can all forgive me now for speaking too much on this subject. Thanks.
    love and peace in Jesus,
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    I didn't see a great big apology there, perhaps I missed part of the story?

    What Jerry Falwell said was the truth. Mohammad was a terrorist. I pray for his protection since there is a "kill" order (fatwa) out on him now by some Muslim clerics.

    So, did Jesus apologize to the money changers? I'm sure they were offended at being called vipers.

    No, I'm not comparing Jerry Falwell to Jesus. But all this feel good kumbayah political correctness has just got to go. It is a war, declared by Islam on Christians & Jews. :(

    [ October 15, 2002, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: SheEagle911 ]
     
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    In all honesty, if you study the life of Mohammed, you will find out - without any prejudices or any hatred - that he was basically a terrorist. On top of that he was a pedophile with one of his many wives being only about 9 years old.
    I also think it is objective and matter-of-fact to say that he is the perfect false prophet of whom Jesus so often warns us.
    Well, Falwell was right.

    By the way, Christians were persecuted by radical Hindus in India when Bubba Bill Clinton was President. Since Clinton always carried his Bible around, but at the same time partnered with gay groups, the Hindus thought Christianity is pro-gay. Thus, Christians had to suffer because of Clinton's gay agenda. The liberal media did not mention that story. But the sure smeared Falwell since he is a conservative Christians.

    What we learn: Christians who want to get the REAL news neeed alternative media. I can't imagine how one can form an educated opinion by relying on CBS, NBC, or ABC only. Be vigilant!

    http://www.solidrockfaith.com/

    [ October 16, 2002, 12:27 AM: Message edited by: Barnabas ]
     
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    Amen She eagle, you go girl.
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    No, that wasn't and apology, it was a clarification that caused more confusion. He is bent on wanting to make this about the Muslim verses Christian. I love Muslims right here in my hometown. I see them and talk with them at least once a week.

    The problem with Rev. Jerry,
    is he lives in his little mind,
    dwells in a little church where he terries
    surrounded by his own little kind
    and on Muslims he chose to grind.

    He is out of touch with reality. (Edited for personal insult on Dr. Jerry Falwell)

    If he would step down off his high throne, maybe he will get in touch with the rest of us still on earth.

    Earth to Jerry, come in Jerry...

    [ October 16, 2002, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: Barnabas ]
     
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    It's "duct" tape.
     
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    Do you tell them that they will go to hell if they die without knowing Jesus ?
     
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    It's "duct" tape.</font>[/QUOTE]You are correct, it is duct tape. But there is a brand of duct tape named "Duck Tape." [​IMG]
     
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    Post-it, you can love Muslims, and as Christians we are supposed to love them & lead them to Jesus. But that doesn't change the fact that Mo was a terrorist & pedophile.
     
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    The problem with Falwell is that he doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut or to stand on his convictions.

    If Falwell believed what he said was true then why apologize?

    That is why his name is fall well!
     
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    After reading the article linked to the lead post on this thread I must say that I don't see where Jerry Falwell backed down from his stance that Mohammad was a terrorist. He did say that he intended no disrespect to sincere, law-abiding Muslims. Likewise, he said that he was sorry if his statements were hurtful to the feelings of Muslims. He also said that it [his making the statement] was a mistake.

    Now, what does all that really say?

    1. That he did not mean to offend sincere, law-abiding Muslims.

    2. That he is sorry if his statement was hurtful to the feelings of Muslims.

    3. That he made a mistake in making the statment.

    Now, why do you suppose that he made such an apology? First, he has now been targeted for assasination by radical Muslims. That is a big motivator.

    However, look closely at his apology. It says that he, did not mean to offend law-abiding Muslims, he is sorry for hurting their feelings, and that it was a mistake to make such a statement on the broadcast. What he did not say in all that is that he denies or abjures the historical facts regarding the violent and terrorist nature of the founder of Islam.

    I agree that his statement could be, and was in fact, hurtful to Muslims. However, does that make his statement any less true? No. Sometimes the truth hurts and sometimes it is necessary to be confronted by such hurtful truth.

    Was it a mistake for him to make the statement on an international broadcast? Yes. It hurt not only Muslim feelings but also the work of our missionaries among them. However, does that make his statement any less true? Not at all.

    I see this apology as an attempt to extricate himself from this difficult situation and avoid the death threat of a radical group of Muslim extremists, but it does not deny the historical facts about Mohammad.

    [ October 17, 2002, 04:47 AM: Message edited by: BibleboyII ]
     
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    I don't think the death threat caused him to back down on a statement he made. You can bet this outspoken man lives with monthly death threats from people closer to home. TNo, it is not like him to buckle to death threats.

    If he turns on a statement it is because he "really" believes it. Dispite his putting his foot into his mouth at times, Falwell is not a coward, will not change his belief to make people happy, has personal intergity, and high moral values.

    He made an apology because he realized he offended people who he did not mean to offend. And he realized that if he had not made the statement, they would not have been offended.

    The "facts" of his statement are not in question, He stands by those, it was his delievery of those facts that he admits was wrong. He has regained my respect.

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    Hello Post-it,

    What do ya know? We are coming to an agreement here. I agree that the problem being discussed here is not so much what Jerry Falwell said, but rather how he said it. I did not mean to come across as if I were saying that he apologized because he was afraid of the death threat. What I meant was that the death threat, being supported by normally law-abiding Muslims, most likely caused him to see the error in how he aruged his point. Like I said, the problem is not what he said, but how he said it.

    On a side note, I want to affirm you for having the courage and personal fortitude to admit that you realized that you had been incorrect in your arguments on a related thread (which is now closed). It takes a "big man" to humble himself as you did and make such a public admission.

    May God bless you.

    [ October 18, 2002, 03:05 AM: Message edited by: BibleboyII ]
     
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    Repenting would mean he had said something that was untrue. So is his statement untrue? Not was it right for him to say it, but was it inaccurate, untrue, a lie? If it is true, then whats there to appologize for besides public pressure. We aren't chrstians to be popular with the world.
     

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