Favorite Preachers Who Are Women

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  1. Rev. Joshua

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    Since our other thread was closed, I thought it might be worthwhile for those of us who believes that God does call women to the pastorate and to preach to list some of our favorite female preachers, particularly those who have influenced our own preaching.

    1 - Barbara Brown Taylor - not a baptist, but did the Bill Self lectures at McAfee (as well as the Beecher lectures at Yale). She is widely published, and a good starting place for people who don't believe women can preach. If you can get a tape or hear her in person the experience is far better.

    2 - Molly Marshall - faculty member at Southern before it fell to the fundamentalists.

    3 - Christi Sanders-Huskison - local baptist and OT scholar.

    4 - Wendy Joiner - local baptist pastor.

    5 - Mary Cartledge-Hayes - Methodist pastor and poet.

    6 - Margartet Moers Wenig - Rabbi and I believe the only Jewish member of the Academy of Homiletics.

    7 - Eileen Campbell-Reid - now a PhD student at Vanderbilt, but used to be on staff at Heritage Baptist Church in Cartersville, GA.
     
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    Aimee Semple McPherson - Founder of the Four Square "church", built on emotion, froth, tongues, healing, and illicit sex.

    Seriously, Joshua, NONE. I am so radically opposed to women pastors and the travesty to the precious Word of God that they are, that to sit under such a *person* would be at best difficult. Or listen to a cassette. Or on the radio. Or even to read your laudatory comments.

    This is NOT "Middle Ground" among Baptists. You really are a "different" kind of Baptist than everyone else here, my friend. That should tell you something.
     
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    Yes Bob, it tells me that the majority of the baptists here come from the absolute most rightward fringe of baptist life.

    The Cooperative Baptist Fellowship has partnered with 11 seminaries, the majority of which are baptist, and all of which graduate women trained to be senior pastors. I know that some of the regulars here have read and liked Barbara Taylor (arguably the most famous female preacher in the USA), and there are millions of baptists in churches that support the CBF.

    This is very much the middle ground among baptists, although certainly not among IFB baptists.

    If you'd like to look at how baptists on a conservative baptist forum view where this board is on the baptist continuum, check
    BaptistLife Post. I dare not point you to BaptistNet, a truly moderate board.

    Joshua

    [ November 02, 2001: Message edited by: Rev. Joshua Villines ]
     
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    Joshua wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> there are millions of baptists in churches that support the CBF <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Millions? I think that's a reach. Do you have statistical justification for this?

    You said that you believe that most Baptists on this board come from the ultra right wing side of things. Could it be possible that you come from the ultra left? :D

    Barbara Brown Taylor is probably indeed the most famous of women preachers in this country, unless you count Joyce Meyer or the TBN types. That's probably where the Macpherson influence comes in as Dr. Bob pointed out.

    [ November 02, 2001: Message edited by: TomVols ]
     
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    Bob,

    "...than everyone else here." ?? Nope, not everyone else; I also support women as pastors, and, as Josh has rightly pointed out, so do many conservative and moderate Baptists. Here in my local SBC association, and in surrounding associations, I know of at least a dozen who support the idea of women pastors.
     
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    Josh,

    I like Barbara Taylor very much; I heard her preach one of the most powerful sermons I've ever heard.
     
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    My mistake, Michael. When I saw you had replied, I actually whacked my forehead BEFORE reading your post -- knowing that you, of all people, who align more with the ultra left-wing of Baptists than anyone else on the BB! [​IMG]

    Is my thinking fuzzy on this? More than 50% of all Baptists in the US would align with "fundamentalism" or at least a strong "evangelicalism", 35-40% with a "middle" ground, and 10% on the extreme left. These are just guesstimates~~

    If more than 1/2 of the old northern baptists are "fundamental" and more than 1/2 of the SBC is "fundamental" (by their own labeling), and most Landmark, some Missionary and a good chunk of Black Baptists are "fundamental", I would question any statistic that shows that those holding to positions such as you/Joshua are anywhere close to "middle ground".

    Just take the issue of pro-homo as Joshua has defended it. What % of Baptists hold that position (a guess is all we can do, but I would be surprised if 5%). Last week the very liberal United Methodists came out in opposition to homo ministers. Think Baptists are less conservative?
     
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    Based on my rationale of responsiveness against homosexuality in the world I live in, I think only less than 5 % of SBC are supportive of homosexuality as a normative role, and they all get "kicked out."
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Favorite Preachers Who Are Women <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    None, God has no women preachers. If they have managed to become ordained, it is not by God's call.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Here in my local SBC association, and in surrounding associations, I know of at least a dozen who support the idea of women pastors <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    There are no churches in our association who support women preachers.
     
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    Bob, focusing exclusively on the issue of the ordination of women, I like at hardline conservatives like Keith Parks - and his support of the pro-woman CBF - as evidence that this is very much the middle ground among baptists.

    Joshua
     
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    To borrow the term from an above forum:

    If it ain't broked, why ya wanna fix it?

    I was at first all for woman pastors, until I read the Word of God with an open mind and realized that God does not call woman to be leaders- in the church or the home. It's not that God has anything against woman, it is just not their role God has given them. It really is nothing to become defensive about.

    UNP, Adam
     
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    Katie,
    You are correct in that the overwhelming majority of SBC churches do not support women in the pastoral/preaching role. Only a handful of Baptist churches of the SBC/CBF ilk have had women as pastors.

    Joshua,
    Your referring to Keith Parks as a hardline conservative makes it official - now I've seen and heard everything friend :D
     
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    Tom,

    He's not a fundamentalist, but in any circle where he's other than a conservative I'd be afraid to hang out too long. The man is an old school, SBC conservative who just wouldn't tow the party line when the fundamentalists took over. Now he's trying to drag the CBF down the familiar road of denominational politics. Blech!

    As for CBF churches having women as pastors, there are very few. On the other hand, all of the seminaries they support are very explicit about training women to be senior pastors. The CBF as a whole has likewise been strongly affiriming of femalie clergy, and they have served at all levels of leadership in the CBF.

    Joshua
     
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    Julie Pennington Russell is now in Waco, I heard her when she was pastor of 19th Ave. Baptist Church in San Francisco. She is a wonderful preacher.

    Adam,
    Isn't it interesting that my journey was exactly the oposite. I thought it was terrible for women to be pastors until I read the word of God with an open mind and discovered that God did call and use women to be leaders of the early church.

    Joshua,
    On this board Kieth Parks would be considered a left winger, which for those of us who know him is absolutey silly.

    Ive never had the oportunity to hear BBT but her books are wonderful. Unfortunatly the other thread was locked before Thomas Cassidy could explain his ridiculous babbling about her, perhaps he could drop in here and respond.

    Russell
     
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    Russell,

    I forgot Julie Pennington Russell, and didn't realize that she had moved to Waco.

    As to Biblical authority and women who preach, Dan Vestal is a downright conservative inerrantist; and he had much the same journey as you.

    As for Keith Parks, well, *sigh*.

    Joshua
     
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    Josh,

    Admittedly...I have never actually heard a woman preach. But, I do have a video of a Bible Study of John that was video taped at Southern Seminary back when Roy Honeycutt was president. It was produced for the Word Biblical Commentary video collection. On it, Molly Marshall Green is one of the speakers and I really enjoyed listening to her thoughts and think she is a very intelligent, Godly person. Other than that, I have never seen or heard a woman preach (or proclaim with authority) the Word of God...unless, of course, you count Huldah... ;)

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned Elizabeth Achtemeier. Any thoughts?
     
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    Hi Tom
    Never heard her. Isn't she Pres.USA and an OT prof at Union? She has written some stuff with her husband I believe.

    I've never heard Nancy Hastings Sehested either. Have read interviews with her. These are two of the most well known but I haven't heard them personally. I believe NHS was pastor at Oakhurst in ATL so Joshua could probably tell us where she is now. I would also be willing to bet he has heard Dr. Achtemeir somewhere along the line.
    Russell
     
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    Nancy Hasings Sehested is a fabulous preacher. This is a very interesting thread, sorry I came to it so late. I located this guy Cassidys remarks about Barbara Brown Taylor. Did he ever reply to your questions? Sounds like he just shot his mouth off and now is hiding out.

    Are there any threads on this board that discuss seriously women as pastors or is this just favorite preacher thread?
    Julie P Russell is great if you ever get the chance to go to Calvary in Waco.
    DB
     
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    The Bible says that a pastor is to be the HUSBAND- I REPEAT- THE HUSBAND- one more time ( which word dont you understand Joshua)the HUSBAND of one WIFE!! I dont have to give you the reference do I? :rolleyes:
     

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