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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Jailminister, Oct 30, 2003.

  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    So let me ask you this: Has God ever struck you for rebellion as you claim(how you think you know this would be interesting, I'm sure) God has struck the whole state of California for not voting in Mr. McClintock as governor?

    And what about those who voted for Mr. McClintock who may be harmed by these fires? According to your theology, it sounds like they should be exempted from any of the problems these fires have and will cause.
     
  2. Johnv

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    Sure there is. Marriage is a public contract. A civil union is a private contract. Civil Unions are not unions based on sex, gender, or anything of the like (the marriage contract implies a necessery of the sexual act to be in full force). Civil unions allow any person to give joint legal partnership of that person's estate to any one other person.

    Here's a good example. Let's say I'm retired and widowed. I decide to by a house with my brother, who is also retired and widowed. We could get a civil union so that our assets are community property, etc. In the event one of us becomes incapacitated, the other could make decisions for the community. States that have civil union contracts have many family unions of friend unions for the manner which I described.


    The Bible does not have the final say as to state recognized marriages. If that were so, then the state would need to require that marriage be only between two christians. Marriages done at courthouses, or between atheists, would not be permissible according to the Bible.

    Amendments are ratified by 3/4 majority, not by the governor.
    And rightly so. We had to put out for hurricanes Hugo and Andrew. We are constantly having to pay for the cost of immigration enforcement that the feds should be doing. We should rightly get assistance from the feds.
     
  3. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    I think you do. If you don't critique the other 49 governors and judge them according to this strict criteria of yours, then I think you simply have something against the State of California and that you are singling it out.
     
  4. Jailminister

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    Ken H said
    The other governors have nothing to do with this discussion. California is the one that recalled their governor and wanted to improve their state, yet they did not. So the other states are not being focused on now. If you would like to bring up one of them then fine, but that is not the focus.

    KenH asked
    Point one. You mean that God has never corrected you or punished you for not doing right. HUMM I guess we know what that means. Hbr 12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

    Point two. No, your conclusion is wrong here also. Pro 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
    The people in California are in mourning right now.
     
  5. KenH

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    1) Well, let's do so. Mississippi has a gubernatorial election tomorrow. Whom should they elect as governor to avoid the wrath of God, according to you?

    2) The fires were only in the extreme southern part of the State. It wasn't the whole State or even a large portion of the State that had this problem. You, therefore, are wrong.
     
  6. Jailminister

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    Ken H queried:
    Mississippi, should elect the person that has good moral direction and does not promote anti-god beliefs.

    KenH also queried:
    No Ken, put on your thinking cap for a minute and get off your high horse. Fires in the South effects the whole state. Higher Taxes, Higher insurance cost, lost of revenue for whole state, lost of jobs for whole state. Think!!!
     
  7. Baptist Believer

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    Yes, please THINK!

    The fire in California affect the California economy which negatively affects the nation's economy (including the Texas economy)and the insurance losses are going to affect all of us who are insurance policy holders.

    So are you being punished because California voters didn't vote for the correct candidate?
     
  8. KenH

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    Come on now, Mr. Jailminister, please name the specific candidate that Missisippians must elect(according to you) to avoid the wrath of God that the people of California have just suffered(according to you).

    After all, as Baptist Believer has pointed out, you will impacted if Mississippians don't make the choice you say they must make to avoid God's wrath.
     
  9. Jailminister

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    KenH. I would choose the pro-life anti-gay marriage candidate. Now I know you are trying to be cute(not working though), but there is a difference between the 2 situations. Mississippi does not have the influence over the rest of the country like california does. Mississippi did not spend millions of dollars for a recall to put someone else in that was no better. Mississippi is not passing pro-sodomite legislation left and right. Mississippi does not have Hollywood that pumps filth and leftist, socialist philosphy into the minds of people and especialy young people everyday like california does. Stick your head and the sand and think you are being cute, but it gets you know where.
    Prov 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof [are] the ways of death.
     
  10. KenH

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    I see. So you have set California up as a straw man. California's political influence is way overrated. I don't recall Jerry Brown making the jump from governor to president. The chances of a Californian being elected president(which Arnold can't be constitutionally) are no better than those from a number of states.

    What goes on in California doesn't influence my political positions nor those of anyone with whom I am acquainted.

    For some reason you have a bur in your saddle about California because they elected Arnold as governor instead of your right-wing hero, Mr. McClintock(whom I like quite a lot myself). My advice to you is to quit crying in your beer(metaphorically I imagine) and move on to something more productive.

    This is my last post on this thread so you can have the last word in our tete-a-tete. [​IMG]
     
  11. Jailminister

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    KenH i have moved on. However if you don't see the influence of California in this country then you really do have your head in the sand. By the way I know Arnold can not run for President. Unless the constitution is changed.
     
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    PS Guess is with Arnold:
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  13. Jailminister

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    Any guesses yet on the above picture?
     
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