For those Harry Potter lovers - Did you know ??

Thanks! :thumbs:

 

Do you mean that discussion of them was not allowed on the Baptist Board? I'm sure I have seen other threads about HP (that's HP as in "Harry Potter" not "Heavenly Pilgrim" ). What I thought was not allowed (at least on this forum) was any thread dealing with human sexuality. One of the "stickies" states that "no threads dealing with human sexuality will be allowed in an open public forum."

 

Then make sure you get rid of any copies of the movie, "The Sound of Music" because of the Uncle Max character!

 

I had to laugh!

I am really enjoying reading both perspectives on this, but as I was reading while not logged in, I saw an add next to Allan's post at the top of this page for Harry Potter Ring Tones!!!

 

I never watched Sound of Music, but I'll take your word for it. But there's "The Maltese Falcon" (Joel Cairo was gay). "The Lion King" (Timon and Pumba are supposedly a gay couple). There's "Bewitched", which is about witches. Then there's "Bell, Book, and Candle" with Jimmy Stewart.

And if enough people on here are against drinking then we'd have a whole LOT of literature/movies/tv shows to get all fired up about, since you'll find alcohol in most of them. It's a sin for Christians to watch movies where drinking is permitted, isn't it?

Contribute your list, too. We can formulate a list of books and movies and TV shows with anything that any Christians might find offensive and then hold a book/movie/show burning. And if any Christians admit to liking any of this entertainment, we can burn them, too.

 

I'll bring the marshmallows

 

Like I said earlier... it is not so much the fact that one of the characters is gay, it is the attitude of the author... she is intentionally provoking Christians.

That bothers me the most...

And if anyother business or author would take a jab at Christians the way she is, I wouldn't support them either.

Her intentions are clearly Satanic... Do whatever it takes to make Christians mad.

 

Galatians 5:19-21
KJV: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and the like; of which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they who do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

I am with you Tim

What I don't get with Christians is this......just because it doesn't feel like a sin doesn't mean it is a lesser sin. Drunkenness gives more of a rush, that is noticeable.
The world accepts HP just fine. HP doesn't bother me much except the mixture of homo & kids, that doesn't fly. Neither does treating your customers like dirt. Homos molest kids, most don't, but still.
If I am going to loose the Kingdom it will be over something much more gratifying such as adultery or getting high. HP isn't worth the hell risk and neither is any other sin categorized in a way which leads to my death. Worshiping idols will getcha good even if it doesn't feel like you are worshiping them. He is jealous god, visiting the iniquities of the forefathers who...not sure the rest offhand. There are worse things than reading HP. But the important question is, are they worse in God's eyes?

 

I agree that's her intention. I also did stuff like that all the time when I was a devout atheist. I had lots of fun "tweaking" Christians and getting them mad. I did it publicly, too. I was a DJ at a radio station and deliberately played music I knew the Christians would hate.

Yet here I am, today. And I didn't get here because Christians boycotted the radio station (they didn't). Funny how things work.

 

Were you angry at Christians npet? What was the reason if I may ask? You don't need to answer, it's fine.

Actually, I don't flock toward Christians. More often, I find they are harder to get along with. Judgmental. Maybe I come off that way too.

 

I think a better word would be "hostile" toward God and Christians. Why? Isn't that normal for a person without the Holy Spirit? I can't think of any reason unique to my life, if that's what you're asking.

 

I don't know if it is normal for a person without the Holy Spirit, but I don't believe so. Yet like I said, I am hesitant towards Christians, yet I am one. What's normal anyhow

 

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I think it is normal.

 

Not sure whether or not this is a worthwhile discussion to join in. But I will make a few points. J.K. Rowling was wrong to make these statements. She will, I believe, give greater account to God for this kind of statement, because of her influence at large.
Also, homosexuality is wrong, period.
The Bible also condemns witchcraft.

But since you have not read these books, tinytim, and I have, I will point out to you a few reasons why I think that some Christians can choose to read them. They are set in a fairytale England. In HP, there is a fully-developed world of elves, unicorns, centaurs, giants, you name it.
The SAME kind of fairytale magic and world as the Brothers Grimm and Snow White or Sleeping Beauty.
The characters such as Harry Potter have their magical abilities innately just like Superman or Spiderman. HP and friends NEVER call on demons or participate in any sort of rituals or ceremonies that gain them powers from demonic forces.
They go to school to train their abilities sort of like Batman trained Robin in the Bat Cave.
A character in HP that claims to tell the future is consistently portrayed as a fraud.

In many ways, what Rowling did is write one more English boarding-school story, a well-established genre in English popular fiction. And simply cram in every stock fairy-tale situation there has ever been. As well as every other stock literary device.
They are enjoyably written. Young orphan boy raised by Cinderella-type guardians finds his true heritage. Finds true friends. Has amazing adventures. Rescues people in danger. Lots of humor.

I am reasonably well-educated, and without Rowling's statement, I would not have known her intent for Dumbledore to be gay. It simply is not an issue in the books. Simply he is a somewhat remote, benevolent headmaster that comes and goes mysteriously.

No more reason to assume anything about Dumbledore than, for example, some brother-sister situations in "Anne of Green Gables" books. Which, is to say, absolutely NONE! Some "fans" have way too much time on their hands. Rowling responded to some of them in ways that Tolkien simply would have ignored them.

I would not recommend these books for young children at all. My teenager enjoyed them. But was not transfixed by them.

Neither would I recommend Lemony Snicket books for their supposed child audience. But they COULD be read tongue in cheek.

Anyway, tim, if HP books are bad at all times for everybody, most of Shakespeare is bad at all times for everybody. As well as Batman and Spiderman.

Each person has to make their own decisions. I have read HP. I personally think James Bond movies are horrible. Complete disregard for women in those movies.
And then Star Wars. I know many Christians who enjoy Star Wars movies, but they do display a dualistic, light vs. dark side of the force. Not a Christian world-view at all.

 

Maybe I just don't know enough about him, but I have trouble matching up "gay" with Richard Harris. This isn't relevant to anything, but it just occurred to me who played Dumbledore in at least one of the movies. (he died in 2002)

 

[/quote]What I don't get with Christians is this......just because it doesn't feel like a sin doesn't mean it is a lesser sin. Drunkenness gives more of a rush, that is noticeable.
The world accepts HP just fine. HP doesn't bother me much except the mixture of homo & kids, that doesn't fly.............HP isn't worth the hell risk.....There are worse things than reading HP. But the important question is, are they worse in God's eyes?[/quote]

You have a lot of presuppositions woven in here. There is no "mixture of homo & kids" in these books. The first in the series came out over 10 years ago.

A number of Christians have borne false witness against J. K. Rowling, by treating as fact and sending them all over the internet, many "facts" from spoof and parody sites such as the "Onion".
This one is a legitimate quote from her, but it is NOT something explicit or implicit in the books.

HP doesn't bother you much (except for something not even in the books) and yet you think it is a hell risk?
Can someone lose their salvation over Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs?
Same thing.

Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. He saved me, and He will keep me saved.