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  1. targus

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    The first Islamic terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 911 occurred at Fort Hood under Obama's watch.

    That is the reason that the media lap dogs and the democrats want to make excuses for Hasan like pretraumatic stress syndrome (which seems to a new invention).
     
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    Post traumatic stress has been around for a long time. It was called shell shock after WW I. I believe it was called battle fatigue during and after WW II. Names or labels change, but the symptoms and results are the same. I do not see how the major could say he had post traumatic shock as he had not been in a combat area. He had seen returned soldiers suffering PTS. That, of course, is no excuse for what he did.
     
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    It is not the font you are using it is the number three size that makes it so bold.
     
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    You need to read a little more closely.

    Pretraumatic stress syndrome - not post traumatic.

    Also you totally ignored the fact that this is the first Islamic terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 911 and that it happened on Obama's watch - so the media lap dogs and democrats have a vested interest in calling it something else.
     
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    Sorry - deleted - placed in separate thread - KenH
     
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    Where did you hear the media or democrats use this term?

    I googled the phrase and the only uses of that phrase I saw were sites like the onion making a joke or bloggers who criticize PTSD. I don't see any legitimate media or scientific source that uses that term.
     
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    Interesting. He is describing a phenomenon and making up a name for it that he thinks helps describe the phenomenon. So yes, this Gjelten journalist did create the term since he says it is "a phenomenon you could maybe call pre-traumatic stress disorder". It is obviously not a psychiatric diagnosis.
     
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    No - as I said in the OP - it is an EXCUSE - designed to protect Obama's legacy.

    They want to pretend that it was merely a case of pre-traumatic stress syndrome - not the first Islamic terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 911.
     
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    It does appear the pre-deployment anxiety and frustration were significant factors in Hasan's actions. Whether you can attach a psychiatric explanation to his actions or not, I don't think that changes the fact that it is considered an Islamic terrorist attack. An islamic terrorist with a psychiatric condition is still an Islamic terrorist. Even if you think anxiety was the only trigger for his actions, it can still be considered an islamic terrorist attack because one of the main sources for his anxiety was his unwillingness to fight against muslims.

    So I don't see how the use of the phrase pre-traumatic stress syndrome actually changes anything about Obama's legacy.
     
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    Don't worry, it doesn't change anything about O's "legacy." It is completely consistent with his other politically correct actions and kissing up to our enemies.

    Just because they make up a fancy name for sin doesn't mean it isn't sin anymore.
     
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    You deserve a hug for that one. (((abcgrad)))

    The "pre-PTSD" just made jihadi-boy pop a little early. Actually, it is better (if you could consider something like this better) than if he cut loose here than on our troops in enemy territory. Of course, if he did it there everyone would have been armed so he wouldn't have got off as many rounds... but the morale impact would have been worse. Of course, that is the aim of terrorists.
     
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    I still say, let Hasan spend an afternoon with some WV Vets.. and then his Maker and Creator can call it what it is!...

    As Toby Keith and Willie Nelson says in the song, Beer for my horses... (Man, I can't believe I am quoting country!!! lol)

    "It's time the long arm of the law put a few more in the ground
    Send 'em all to their maker and he'll settle 'em down
    You can bet he'll set 'em down 'cause
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    Brother, back in 2002(?) a man named Muhammed and a boy named Malvo drove around in a car and killed at least 11 people and maybe as many as 17. That was every bit as much of an Islamic terrorist attack as what happened at Fort Hood.

    I'm am quite sure that man, Muhammed(sp?) was executed just a few days ago.

    Now, he was a Muslim and he created terror. I think I've read he was prior military and was on a "jihad" of his own, but can't remember the source off hand.

    Regardless, my point is this....(speaking as someone who doesn't like Obama, nor his policies, and I tend to be a "birther" concerning his citizenship), Obama is no more responsible for Fort Hood than Bush was for the D.C. sniper.

    Whatever the reason the military brass refused to address this Muslim terrorist in their midst, it was because of an atmosphere that was created long before Obama came into office.

    What you are doing is no different than blaming Bush for 911 attacks.

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    It effects Obama's legacy in this way...

    By claiming that it was the result of anything other than Islamic terrorism - which is exactly what "the one", his minions, and the lapdog media want - keeps Obama's legacy free of the blemish that an Islamic terrorist attack took place on U.S. soil on his watch.
     
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    No it was not. The point is not that this guy happens to be Muslim - it is all of the rest that went along with it. The Islamic fanatic beliefs that he spread around - the contact with terrorists overseas - etc.

    I am not saying that "the one" is responsible. I am saying that Obama, his minions, and the lapdog media are spinning this into ANYTHING other than an Islamist terrorist attack - to protect Obama's legacy and to keep people from thinking that maybe we should be more agressively waging a war on Islamic terrorism.
     
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    The responsible party is the one who pulls the trigger.

    BTW, the attacks by Muhammed and Malvo had nothing to do with Muslim terrorism. These two sleazy criminals were planning on demanding a ransom to stop the killing. It had to do with greed. And yes, one of these degenerates was executed the other day.
     
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    I've been wrestling with this for some days now as well... at first I was convinced it was an act of terrorism, but the longer I look at it the more I have to wonder why it was so low-tech and, to be blunt, such a small incident. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to downplay the fact that 14 American souls were brutally murdered by this man, but the facts just seem to come short of a terrorist cell making some kind of statement.

    Al Queda wants to take credit for terrorist acts and as far as I know they've not stepped forward to accept responsibility yet.

    Am I missing something?
     

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