Forgiven vs Qualified

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  1. Xenos

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    If a preacher commits adultery like King David, and gets forgiveness like King David, does he still qualify to preach and pastor a church like King David was restored to his throne?

    Is there ever anything that disqualifies a preacher from pastoring?

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  2. MissAbbyIFBaptist

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    Well a pastor ought to be within accordance to 1 TImothy chapter 3 of course. We have to remember pastors aren't perfect. They are still men who have temptations, just like any other man. When God forgives, it's gone. Thank God my sins which were many can't be brought up anymore!
    And God can still use those that have failed. Just because someone fails dosn't mean they are no longer called. I don't beleive that changes.
    But the only thing is...people don't forgive quite so easily. That pastor will carry that with him in his churches if it's been brought before the congregation. If it has been brought before the public I guess all he can do is ask their forgivness as well, and simply keep going in his minisry.
    In the case of my life people that have known me for like forever still try to bring up my past when I wittness, and I just have to say "Hey, if your looking for my past, go to Calvary. It's nailed to the cross. I'm forgiven in GOd's sight, no matter what anyone says." but for a pastor since he's constantly before the people, and he is the example it might be harder. But with God all things are possible. The devil might especialy give him a hard time about it, but that's when he needs to say "Get behind me satan."
    He needs to remeber Philipians 4:13 "I can do all thing through Christ which stengtheneth me." God has called and forgiven him, and God is able to give him the streght to keep going for God's glory!
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  3. dianetavegia

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    2 Samuel 12:15 Then Nathan departed to his house. And the Lord struck the child that Uriah's wife bore to David, and it became ill. 16 David therefore pleaded with God for the child, and David fasted and went in and lay all night on the ground. 17 So the elders of his house arose and went to him, to raise him up from the ground. But he would not, nor did he eat food with them Then on the seventh day it came to pass that the child died. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead. For they said, "Indeed, while the child was alive, we spoke to him, and he would not heed our voice. How can we tell him that the child is dead? He may do some harm!"

    David WAS punished by God for his adultery.

    I would not remain under a pastor who had committed adultery and would expect him to resign. That happened to the last minister at our church.

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  4. aefting

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    King David did not hold the NT office of a pastor. His experience does not apply at all. There are strict qualifications for a pastor listed in the NT -- IMO, David would not qualify.

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  5. Xenos

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    I am not doubting the forgiveness of God. The issue at hand is does a preacher still qualify to preach after he commits adultery?

    Psa 40:9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.

    David did preach after he committed adultery. I agree with those that believe a guilty preacher can be forgiven but he will no longer qualify to preach. [​IMG]

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  6. Don

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    And I humbly submit to you: Forbid no man from preaching the Word of God.

    He might not qualify to be a pastor any more, but you better not tell anyone they can't preach (faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word).
     
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    Even after David committed adultery, God STILL called him "a man after my own heart". Can that be said of any of us?
     
  8. Dr. Bob

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    Great reminder, Don. Many times we equate the two - pastoring and preaching, since part of pastoring IS preaching!

    But women may preach, young may preach, non-ordained may preach, Balaam's ass may preach!

    Pastoring, however, has 15+ very stringent aspects of "being blameless or above reproach", as listed in I Tim 3 and Titus 1.

    The more I see of pastors, the more I realize that most are preachers and few truly gifted as pastor/teacher.
     

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