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Discussion in '2008 Archive' started by Martin, Jan 26, 2007.
Four American soldiers were captured by terrorists, and then murdered.
Sounds like they were afforded the full protection of the Geneva Convention , at least the part that applies to American POWS.
I'm sure some bright young lawyer from the aclu made a request that their habeus corpus rights be observed. Maybe it was too late for anything but the corpus to apply.:tear:
Terrorists don't allow their captured enemies rights under the Geneva Convention.
This is the primary difference between true Americans and terrorists.
Nothing gets by you, eh ?
Too bad the same can't be said of others.
. . . From one true American to another . . . I gotta ask: "What does he think he is?"
1. A legal immigrant.
2. An illegal immigrant.
3. A citizen kept free by the blood of OTHERS?
The primary difference is that the USA did NOT start this fight.
So the question still begs to be asked, when is there going to be enough American blood and treasure spent for the ignorant people of Iraq who bite the beating hearts out of living bunnies and chew the heads off of living frogs?
The USA sure did.
No question about that. We walked away from fighting terrorists in Afghanistan, to fight the enemies of terrorists in Iraq, creating a whole new class of terrorists thereby.
Bottom line remains the same. Terrorists don't abide by the Geneva convention, because that is the sort of people they are.
Genuine Americans do treat prisoners humanely because that is the sort of people we are.
Most of us, anyway.
If Sam Houston had not taken the "humane" role when Santa Anna was captured after San Jacinto, and instead followed his namesake Samuel's example and slabbed Agag, he would not have overthrown the constitutinal government of Mexico 4 more times to make himself dictator. But then I may not be able to camp at Grand Canyon, Rocky Moutain, Arches, or other parks as cheaply, either.
Only if you ignore the reasons for the Gulf War and numerous ignored U.N. Resolutions along with continual provocation of Allied forces in their efforts to contain Saddam.
The cause of the war rests solely on the shoulders of Saddam Hussein. All he had to do was cooperate with the UN.
Then he could have continued to oppress his people, murder them pretty much at will and accumulate vasts sums of ill gotten wealth and when he finally turned the Iraq over to his psycopathic sons, the fun could have really begun.:thumbs:
Houston was a complex guy, wild and undisciplined in some ways and unbelievably wise in others.
He realized that mercy was not just tactically right; it was also the thing that separated Texans from Santa Anna and his fellows.
There were some who didn't follow that idea. Many Mexicans were killed out of hand after the battle, including one officer who had pleaded with Santa Anna to spare the life of Davy Crockett.
I'm curious as to how they were taken captive in the first place. Were they already wounded?
The Marines I have talked to who have served in Iraq say they have an absulute no surrender policy. Fight till you die or are too badly wounded to go on, is the unwritten policy. They know their fate if they are captured.
It angers them a great deal to hear liberals pleading for captured terrorists to be given access to our civilian court system. That attitude could manifest itself in illegal killings of potential terrorist captives. Liberals only have themselves to blame for that attitude.
When they know the only treatment they will receive is a bullet in the brain or live decapitation, it affects their attitutude towards prisoners they take, or they may decide it's not worth the effort to take a captive at all.
Wow, I had no idea that happened, as I haven't seen the news today. Very sad. My husband was a Navy Seal and really can't believe all that our leaders have allowed to happen with this war. Pray for our men over there and the ones leaving to go.
At that point, they have become no different than any other terrorist. We don't treat our enemies humanely because they deserve it. We treat them humanely because we do not want to be like them.
yet we are just as fallen as them...and if an American soldier isn't saved....he quite literarly is the same person as whomever he calls his "enemy," excluding our saved race.
Why do you say this? No one here is glad that these brave soldiers died! No one here is condoning this barbaric behavior by these terrorists!
Bro. Curtis, we don't always agree, but I respect you and understand the anger this causes, but I don't think Galatian has done anything except to point out the difference between our civilized society and their uncivilized one.
BTW, our son is moving to Utah, so we might be getting a close up look at the beautiful scenery out West sometime this summer.
I don't want the terrorists to have access to our court systems. If they are killing Americans, I have no problem with them facing some type of military justice.
I just want to make sure the people that are tried are terrorists and not some innocent civilian who was mistaken or set-up by someone for some personal reason.
Watch the video. The Iraqi police let them through the check points to the compound and let them through the check points on the way out. Where their American style uniforms and suburbans came from could be from a couple of places, one being Iraqi military who we are training and who pretend to be working with the Americans by day, and are with the terrorists by night. Remember, it is okay to pretend to work with and lie to the Americans because for muslims it is okay to lie, steal, kill, or whatever atrocities one wishes to commit if it is done for allah. No matter how much pretense, the bottom line to Iraqi shia and sunni muslims is that Americans are the enemy of allah.
This is why I continue to say, a democratic free Iraq is a pipedream of those who do not understand this religious political ideology of mohammed.
Could be they are just young men who beieve the best way to stay alive is to kill the enemy.
What you say is not really true to everyone. The argument usually is to treat them humanely, per the Geneva Convention, in order to insure the humane treatment of our troops. That clearly is not working and hasn't for over 60 years. Being "like" them doesn't enter into the equation.