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Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Cindy, Dec 4, 2002.
At least the musicians from CCM agree that there is not much difference between themselves and the world.
It could be our message is diluted. Okay class, here's a trivia question for you.
Who said, "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake"?
Who said, "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"?
If the natural man recieves what Christians put out there regarding doctrine and the things of God, then is it Christian? Remember, preaching of the cross is to them that perish, foolishness.
By the way, it was Jesus and Paul.
Does Mercy Me say they are trying to appeal to the unsaved? They are trying to edify Christians with their music and glorify God by doing what the Spirit has called them to do. What is wrong with that?
If the unsaved come to a concert the show would seem much like any other concert,(music and a band on stage) but the message would be different. Do you see the unsaved flocking to Mercy Me concerts? So they are not "receiving what the Christians put out". Also, Mercy Me never claimed they are trying to teach doctrine through their music.
People always assume that every Christian artist is trying to appeal to the unsaved in order to reach them with the gospel. This is just not true and it frustrates me that CCM bashers constantly try to bring it up.
You're right, they're not appealing to non-Christians. I'm quickly coming to the opinion they're appealing to the carnal side of Christians.
I recently had an unsaved neighbor (who is heavy into rock music) tell me she thought CCM sounded cultic. It's just not something she as an unsaved person expected a Christian to listen to. That really suprised me, I would have figured that if a person was to start transitioning from listening to rock to listening to Christian music the first thing that would appeal to them would be CCM.
Of course I've only got the opinion of ONE person on that, but it still hit me as odd. Someone should do a poll somewhere for non-Christians, asking what they're take on Christian rock is. Maybe it's been done. It would be interesting to find out what the typical answers would be!
PS to Cindy. My comments are NOT meant to be offensive to you personally. These are my personal opinions I'm putting out as I'm trying to process what I can and can't accept as good for me and my family. It's a judgment call each person has to make, this is mine. I realize that others make different ones and it doesn't make either of us better or more holy or more right. Hope you understand!
No offense,Gina. I posted the story without comment,not as an endorsement, but just for people's information and interest.
I see much within the Christian music realm that disturbs me and that I certainly do not endorse or approve. But I also see some very good things,and I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
This caveat too: any time you read quotes about Christian music in the secular media, you need to take it with a major grain of salt. People are regularly mis-quoted or have their words twisted or taken out of context...it's par for the course.
BTW...on a personal note,for what it's worth,I've met Bart Millard,and rarely have I spoken to a young man who has more of a genuine heart for the Lord and for ministry.
Believe that in many areas of life, we are saved but not converted. And MUSIC is one of the most obvious.
Saved people have a "new song". But the allure of the "old song" of the world, the flesh and the devil is very strong.
A Christian musician may give solid testimony of faith in Christ and loving the Lord, but still not be "converted".
Other areas can be language, art, visual, dress, hair, etc - a person may be genuinely saved, but not yet "converted" to something God-honoring.
(BTW, I'm not talking about going back to 17th C music or clothes or hair, etc to be "converted". Just glorifying to God. Haven't seen/heard any rock so classified.)