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Frankenstein's dream.

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Fishnbread, Feb 2, 2005.

  1. Fishnbread

    Fishnbread New Member

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    When abortion became legal it was the fulfilling of a dream, Dr Frankensteins dream, now there are talks of human cloning, stem cell research, and many other things, some to horrific to speak of in my opinion. America is fast becoming a land of Frankensteins, for instence the body parts of some aborted babies are being sold by the mothers and used in some makeups as collagen. It's clear to see that America and the rest of the world for that matter are buying into Dr. Frankensteins agenda.

    Any feed back will be appreciated.

    Your servant
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  2. mountainrun

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    I'm afraid I'm a little skeptical of the body parts of aborted babies being sold by the mothers.

    Sounds like urban myth to me.

    I'm pretty sure it's illegal also.

    MR
     
  3. mountainrun

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    A search shows that this may be happening, but not by mothers.
    Some abortionists are illegally selling body parts.

    It's probably not very common...yet.
    A witness called by pro lifers admitted to embellishing the facts before a congressional committee.

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  4. Fishnbread

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    originally posted by mountainrun
    You don't think it's possible that out of all those abortionists selling body parts, that theres a mother some were getting paid to keep her mouth shut? or even charging the abortion docters money for her childs remains knowing what they will be used for.

    Any replies will greatly be valued.

    your servant
    fishnbread
     
  5. dianetavegia

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    I haven't worked in a hospital for over 24 years but even then all after-birth was put in a freezer to be picked up each week.

    I posted a report in the Private Women's forum about testing done on little girls ages 14 months to 4 years old who had their hair washed with shampoo's which contained placenta. A number of the teeny children began to develop breasts and other early puberty changes!

    I have NO DOUBT these parts are being sold openly among baby killers and the companies who can benefit moneywise. Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
     
  6. Craigbythesea

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    Although I personally believe that abortions are wrong in most situations, I am much more concerned about the children who have been born. Every year hundreds of thousands of them die around the world because they do not receive the minimal amount of care that is necessary just to keep them alive. I live in the only industrialized county in the world that denies that health care, even for children, is a basic human right, and although my country is one of the wealthier industrialized countries, children die here because health care costs very much more here than it does anywhere else in the world and millions of children have no health insurance.

    As bad as some abortion procedures are, they are mercy killings compared to being ravaged by a disease that is too expensive to cure. Abortions were very common in the New Testament period, but the New Testament is absolutely silent about them—and I do not believe that was a careless oversight. Jesus and his followers saw that there were other concerns to which we are to give our priorities. Someday, after we find a way to care for the children that are already in this world, I would like to see the church take up the abortion issue.

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    I would much rather see local churches stepping out into their communities and providing safe havens for unwed mothers. I would also like to see those same churches stepping out and adopting those babies. While this is happening in some degree, it is not near enough. If a local church can afford to build a gymnasium, then why can't it afford to help these ladies?

    While it is a sad state of affairs that many children die due to lack of care in this and many other countries around the world, I don't think we can save them all. But we can save SOME, in our local communitites.

    And don't think for a minute that God will not hold this country, as well as the other industrialized countries of the world, responsible for what we don't do. God wasn't too keen on Israel's sacrficing their babies to Molech in the Old Testament. He won't be too keen on US sacrificing OUR babies to the god of convienience!
    In HIS service;
    Jim
     
  8. Fishnbread

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    originally posted by Craigbythesea
    I suppose I understand what you mean, but I have to disagree with you about abortion being a mercy killing, how can jabbing a niddle in the back of someones head and sucking there brains out through a tube be mercyful. Don't think it's mighty odd that some one can afford an abortion and not health care for there child? the Bible say's in Exodus 20:13, Thou shalt not kill. It also says in Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Us believers should be trying to stop the suffering, and the murder. So we can save the children and send Dr. Frankenstien back to were he belongs: The science fiction shelf of the book store.

    your servant
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  9. mountainrun

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    originally posted by fishnbread

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    You don't think it's possible that out of all those abortionists selling body parts, that theres a mother some were getting paid to keep her mouth shut? or even charging the abortion docters money for her childs remains knowing what they will be used for.

    Any replies will greatly be valued.
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    I suppose anything is possible but my research, brief thought it was, showed absolutely no indication of this, nor was this accusation brought up before the congressional committee.

    I generally prefer not to embellish a debate with probables.

    When Christians add to the known facts in their arguments against something like abortion, we are promptly portrayed as liars and sensationalists and the credibility of our argument is badly damaged when our stories are misproven.
    I think the fact that some abortionists are doing this should look bad enough on its own.

    Imbellishing the story will only damage the credibility of our cause.

    If you read the article, you will note that the witness was discredited because he exaggerated the truth.

    Hence, our cause was discredited.

    MR
     
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    Source

    Other Sources:

    http://covenantnews.com/babyparts.htm

    http://www.all.org/issues/abhow12.htm

    http://www.lifeissues.org/connector/99jul.html
     
  11. Fishnbread

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    posted by mountainrun
    I 100% agree with that.

    your servant
    Fishnbread
     
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