Free Love and Strict Diets

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  1. swaimj

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    I came across two interesting and inadvertently related articles on the 'net today. First, here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy.../02/25/AR2009022503123.html?hpid=opinionsbox1 George Will points out that, while Americans in general have become quite casual about sex--anything goes-- many are becoming quite strict; even moralistic about food. Second, here: http://www.albertmohler.com/blog_read.php?id=3348
    Al Mohler details the growing use of pornography in American life.
    On sex, the scriptures lay out a well-defined standard. Sex is for and between married people only. All else is sin whether it be physical sex or sexual fantasy. But on food, while all eating is to be done in moderation, and while our physical health should be guarded, all meat is consumable by the Christian. "Every creature of God is good and is to be received with thanksgiving" Paul says.
    Our society, having turned away from God, is completely mixed up in relation to these two.
     
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    very interesting post. reminds me of the Casting Crowns line about America's attemp to "save the trees and kill the children".

    I see this often as I study scripture and watch our culture. We want to stop violence in schools but take God out. We become more accepting of false religions while turning against christains. etc etc
     
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    It is everywhere....

    In all areas of our culture... people are soo mixed up...

    For instance.. .Spend more to get out of debt! YEAH... that works...
    Killing babies are ok.. .but those pooor polar bears....

    All a Christian has to do is open their eyes and they see the lies of Satan flooding America!

    He that don't work shouldn't eat... Paul said this...
    But in America.. He that doesn't work can get a mortgage they don't have to pay because it is the Government's fault because they didn't pay it for them...
    In America.. He that doesn't work can get taken care of by those who do work.

    Yep.. .this country is messed up!
     
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    This is all happening in our churches also not just society, the secular world, we see it right here on the BB all the time.
    Those who support spending more money to get out of debt, being irresponsible,
    killing babies, but God save the wolves,
    as from the op, when it comes to food, we've been told here we should not eat meat, yet God gave it to eat, or just because soemoen in the secular world says so, we've been told here eating some fruits and vegetables was bad, yet God gave them and said they were good.
    christianity has nothing to do with politics and should be kept seperate

    We constantly see chirsitans turning on God, on scripture, to take up a world view not seen through scripture, but through the world itself. proof is right here on this board.
     
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    Isa*5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
     
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    Thank You Amy!!!
     
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    Fascinating post. You are exactly right. It is everywhere. Commercials, magazines, internet, and any other medium we can dream up. You point about fantasy is very good. What good has it done a person if there is never a physical contact with someone not your spouse, yet your whole life ones mind was constantly replaying fantasies in their mind? To God, it is all the same. The outward appearance will not make it.

    As far as diets go, people are strict about that usually because that want to be more attractive. Being married over 30 years, if someone dont like the way I look, then look the other way. Seriously, the Bible does warn against gluttony and we tend to overlook that compared to the above sin. If we had been eating right and being active all along, we would not need a diet.
     
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    When I posted this information on my blog, I edited this line to say "Sex is for and between one man and one woman only". Meant to change it here as well. Just for the record and for clarity.
     
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    All I can say is that I've had both a fat body, and also an athletic body that was seemingly carved out of wood. Believe me when I say that the latter led to a much higher quality of life in every way imaginable. I strongly disagree with this article, mainly because you shouldn't compare and contrast them... I believe that you should strive to do well in both areas, they're not opposites, and you don't have to give up one to do well in the other. There is no way that it was ever God's intent for us to treat our bodies poorly by consuming all the processed foods of today so it is my opinion that it pleases God when you watch what you eat and stay healthy. The bible tells us our bodies are a temple... not a tent.
     
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    These articles are comments about our culture and what is happening. I think all Christians agree that we should eat a healthy diet and we should be morally pure. These articles describe our culture. In our culture people are very immoral when it comes to sex. Yet, when it comes to food, many are quite prudish; going beyond any biblical requirement in strictness. This is a change in our culture because 50 years ago Americans were much more chaste in the sex life but smoked habitually and ate like pigs.
     
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    You might also want to add that it's for people who are married to each other. :eek:

    :laugh:
     
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    How can the report be accurate?

    Aren't we told every other day that Americans are the fattest people on the planet? Aren't we told that 40% of children, 50% of men and women,...which somehow equals 65% of Americans..... are overweight and 25% of those are obese and 50% of those are morbidly obese and 15% of those use a forklift to get in and out of bed and so on and so on?

    Aren't we told Americans produce 50% of the world's food but consume 90% of world's fast food, while everywhere else in the world they only serve slow food?

    I dunno if I can keep up with it all?

    peace to you:praying:
     
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    How do we decide if a person is overweght when it isn't obvious, like weighing 500 pounds. I've heard so many people say 30 pounds over weight (or something similar, we've all heard it), well, how do we judge how much over weight a person is?
     
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    Step on the bathroom scale.

    :)

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    What exactly are the biblical rules for eating anyway... don't be a glutton, and otherwise eat anything you want? That's about what many of you would say, if not even arguing about what exactly a glutton is. The bible was written in a different time period and therefore did not have the over-abundance of food, food packed with too many calories, processed food, food with nutrients stripped out due to farming methods, chemicals, etc., etc., etc. Instead they ate natural whole foods with no processing, and it was more scarce, therefore it wasn't a huge widespread problem by any means, and therefore not enough was said about the subject to apply to today's world. Because of this, going beyond any biblical requirement for strictness in diet isn't exactly saying much, really wouldn't be hard... actually should be expected from what I've seen.
     
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    One word... Moderation.
     
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    Take honey, for example

    Pr 25:16 Hast thou found honey? eat so much as is sufficient for thee, lest thou be filled therewith, and vomit it.
    Pr 25:27 It is not good to eat much honey: so for men to search their own glory is not glory.

    A little honey, yes, too much will make you sick!

    I was VERY happy with myself when I passed by the 75% off regular priced Valentine's chocolate boxes at the supermarket yesterday...I was tempted, but then again, I HAD eaten some Dove chocolates earlier in the week....moderation is the key! :saint:
     
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    I'm for both free love and strict diet---but within the happy bonds of heterosexual marriage.

    Yes, the world's view is skewed, but that's nothing new. It doesn't have to affect me or my marriage.
     
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    I can't believe someone who got their BB nickname from a fast food item would pick on me this way.


    Seriously, the world’s priorities are all messed up, but does that really surprise anyone? This is a sign of apostasy God gave us.

    I Tim 4:1-4
    The bible is clear on this. Anyone who tells you that you cannot marry or cannot eat certain things they are giving head to “seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”

    Sex is good, within the bounds of marriage. Food is good, within the bounds of moderation.
     
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    Excellent good conclusion. This is an interesting thread, as it contrasts two sins, one which is harped on at every turn, and the other which people turn their head at best and think it is a badge of honor at worst. I have seen pot lucks where people were so stuffed they could hardly walk. They hold their big stomachs and giggle like they just accomplished something.

    The author of this thread brought out an excellent point about the other sin. What is our thought life like concerning this subject? My guess is that one judgement day, when all is revealed, lots of people will stand before God who looked down on others for failing in this area in a physical sense, while their own thoughts were rotten to the core, and just as guilty before God.
     

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